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Heads of Year (secondary) unscientific survey

17 replies

ValancyRedfern · 27/03/2022 09:39

Our Heads of Year are at breaking point as the position of Assistant HOY has been taken away and their tt loadings have increased. I'd like to find out if this is typical or if our HOY are being particularly badly treated.

Could you tell me the loading for HOY at your school, if they have an AHOY (and if the AHOY also gets a reduced loading), and how large the cohort is?

Ours would be:
22/30
No AHOY
220 students per year

Thanks so much

OP posts:
monkeysox · 27/03/2022 10:21

0 as they are non teaching and have been at my past two schools too. Former teaching assistants or social workers so not trained teachers.

Wavingnotdrown1ng · 27/03/2022 11:17

38/50 across a fortnight; lunch duty every day and non teaching AHOY

BlueMediterranean · 27/03/2022 14:35

In my school most HOY are PE teachers who doesn't have much to mark or lessons to plan. I think it's impossible if you teach any other subject.

niclw · 27/03/2022 19:46

No AHOY in my school. 180 ish per year group. All expected to do lunch and after school detentions with serial offenders/ big issues. They also have on call duties during lessons. I'm not sure how many lessons they teach but I know it is less than subject leaders which is 40/50 per fortnight. Our subject leaders are considerably more stretched for time than HOY.

JaffavsCookie · 27/03/2022 19:53

Ours are non teaching, have been for 10 years now. Still super busy 280 kids/year

stravagante · 27/03/2022 20:29

We have heads of house

Tt reduction of two hours
Responsible for 45 kids.

Daisy4569 · 27/03/2022 22:15

No AHOY 200 students and 50/60

PhileasPhilby · 28/03/2022 09:37

HoY is the role my DH was most stretched in. He’s SLT now & will openly say he has a much easier deal - likewise when he was HoD (core). It’s because so much of the role is reactive, to situations that often need dealing with really urgently, so it’s very hard to plan your time. It’s under-recognised too in that regard.

He used to have an AHoY but they didn’t have TT reduction, 40/50 taught periods.

PhileasPhilby · 28/03/2022 09:38

As HoD he was given more time (35/50) & had 2 deputies who also had TT reduction.

IamChipmunk · 28/03/2022 19:04

Im a teaching head of year.
Have 10 'frees' out of 25 lessons but one of those is taken with a half hour lunch duty twice a week.
Also do 2 x break dutys.
Out if those 9, 3 are supposed to be my PPA but in reality they are used for pastoral stuff.
I have 300 in my year group.
I have an AHOY whos job is attendance and thats all. However I still pick up the big hitters and worst of the PA kids as these usually come with various pastoral issues.
The AHOYS get an hour for picking up attendance and some get a Small TLR.

I teach a btec subject so mainly ks4 and also an sen class.

MsGoodenough · 03/04/2022 08:56

Thanks everyone. I do think it's a ridiculously hard job. Also the timetable should be planned either frees every day to pick up issues that day, my HOY teaches full days Monday and Tuesday so can't pick up anything during the day until Wednesday. It's bonkers!

MsGoodenough · 03/04/2022 08:57

Sorry. I'm the op on a different computer.

WlNDMlLL · 03/04/2022 13:06

I think one of the worst things about teaching is that a promotion is only possible a lot of the time if you have capacity in your life to work considerably more hours. That's not right is it? In many jobs I'm sure you'd have more responsibility but you wouldn't necessarily have to work many more hours.

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Lilac57 · 08/04/2022 18:49

No AHoY's at my school, with a similar year group size. I think the teaching load is similar too, but I'm not sure tbh as that's not my role. But, I do know that our HoY's are at absolute breaking point, their workload has increased alot over the last couple of years. I wouldn't be surprised if we get a number leaving, with no-one internal interested in the jobs as everyone knows how difficult it is. The set up we have simply isn't sustainable, we need AHoY's (which would be the current HoY's preference), or for the role to be non-teaching.

Iamnotthe1 · 10/04/2022 09:17

In one of the local schools to me, the HoYs aren't teachers so have no teaching load. They are an entirely pastoral roles for which applicants do not have to be qualified teachers.

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