Am I right or the school? Not sure.

[Turquoiseblueorbubblepink]

I’m a FT teacher and have 3 60 minute non contacts a week, out of 25.

Also have a lunch duty. We all have these (academy.)

Lunch duty is 50 mins. So when that’s subtracted from my PPA I am under what I should have.

But are they just looking at my PPA and not the duty as well?

From my understanding (and I could well be wrong), lunch wouldn't be subtracted from your PPA if you are being directed to work out. It would be added to the 22 hours you teach to give you a total contact time of 1370 minutes a week. You're entitled to 10% as PPA so that's 2 hours, 17 minutes. They are giving you more than they need to.

I make it that I should have 2.5 hours of PPA, so they are very generously giving me a whole thirty minutes more, but then I do a fifty minute lunch duty.

PPA shouldn’t really be for lunch, is my understanding.

Why are you subtracting your lunch duty from your PPA. If you say that the lunch duty is like a teaching period, you have 26 periods of contact time and then add in the other lunch breaks you have 7 periods of PPA.

True, that’s why I’m not really sure how to look at it.

The problem is it means the only ‘break’ I get on that day is my PPA, and my PPA shouldn’t be to eat in, it should be to plan in! Is it twenty or thirty minutes we should legally have for lunch?

1x uninterrupted 20 mins break if your day is over 6 hours (working time directive), purple book may be different, but as an accademy depends if they have agreed to match. Doesn't have to be between 12-2 etc, just during the day.

Is it a paid lunch duty on top of your salary?

Do you not have break duty?

@Turquoiseblueorbubblepink

I make it that I should have 2.5 hours of PPA, so they are very generously giving me a whole thirty minutes more, but then I do a fifty minute lunch duty.

PPA shouldn’t really be for lunch, is my understanding.

Your PPA is based on timetabled teaching time rather than overal school time. That means it's not 2 and a half hours.

If you aren't including your lunch duty as directed time then you do 22 lessons at 60 minutes each (1320 minutes). PPA at 10% gives you 2 hours and 12 minutes.

If you are including it as directed time (which the school probably will), your entitlement is 2 hours and 17 minutes.

The lunchbreak entitlement is 20 minutes but as PP have said, it could be given at a different point in the day (like break time). It'd be shitty of them to do that but it's possible. Equally, they could say that a third of your PPA slot that day is actually lunch and your official PPA is 40 minutes in that slot. That would still have them officially giving you more than you are entitled to at 2 hours and 40 minutes.

Personally, I'd be thrilled at 3 hours. In primary, you're typically just given an afternoon which usually equates to a little over 2 hours and is often under the actual entitlement based on the number of hours you work. At my school, for example, we have directed contact time for 25 and a half hours a week so PPA should be 2 hours and 34 minutes. We each get a touch over 2 hours.

Isn’t PPA 10% of a full timetable? It’s actually slightly more than that as there is a registration group for 20 mins every morning, so my actual day is 830-850 reg, 850-950 lesson one, 950-1050 lesson 2, 1050-1110 break (one duty a week) 1110-1210 lesson 3, 1210-110 lesson 4, then lunch till 2, then 2-3 lesson 5.

The lunch duty isn’t paid - I’m still not tots sure about that!

PPA is 10% of your specific timetabled teaching. The lunch duty won't be paid if it's been accounted for within the directed time hours, which it sounds like it will be. Your registration periods also count as directed time (although some academies try to dispute this). In that case, your entitlement for PPA becomes 2h27m (including directed teaching time, lunch duty and all registrations).

Yes PPA is 10% of teaching time. But, as has been said before, you should still have a break in the day (do you?), and your lunch duty should be part of directed time. Do you have a breakdown of directed time that includes duties?