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Whether you're a permanent teacher, supply teacher or student teacher, you'll find others in the same situation on our Staffroom forum.

Whether you're a permanent teacher, supply teacher or student teacher, you'll find others in the same situation on our Staffroom forum.

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Anyone teach part time but also self employed?

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Persis101 · 20/01/2022 15:16

I teach two days a week on a permanent contract but would like to spend one/two days per week working on a self-employed basis doing something unrelated to teaching. Is anyone doing this? Did you need to ask ‘permission’ from your school first? In the school holidays I may be working on the days I would be in school in term time - is this likely to be an issue? I’ve looked through the Burgundy Book and Teachers Pay and Conditions and can’t find any guidance relating to teaching and being self employed simultaneously. Can anyone point me in the right direction?!

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TreeLawney · 20/01/2022 21:34

I used to run a business in the holidays. Never encountered an issue with it (was careful to keep it separate from school).

Meredusoleil · 20/01/2022 22:09

I work part time in a school and do tutoring on my days off 🤷

Persis101 · 21/01/2022 11:57

Thanks for your responses @TreeLawney @Meredusoleil I think I’m overthinking it and I’m sure it’s fine!

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desperate4spring · 05/02/2022 13:15

I teach part-time and do something completely unrelated on a self-employed basis. Haven't told school as it's part of my exit plan!

Persis101 · 05/02/2022 14:52

@desperate4spring Interesting! I am hoping my self-employed business takes off as that will be my exit plan too! Good luck with yours.

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Philandbill · 05/02/2022 18:48

I used to teach part time and also had a self employed business which I did one evening a week (on a non teaching day) and some Saturdays. I told my headteacher but it wasn't an issue. Loathed filling in the self assessment tax form every year though ...

Meredusoleil · 05/02/2022 20:04

@Philandbill

I used to teach part time and also had a self employed business which I did one evening a week (on a non teaching day) and some Saturdays. I told my headteacher but it wasn't an issue. Loathed filling in the self assessment tax form every year though ...

Oh god! I have yet to do the tax form as didn't start work until after the cut off, but will have to do it after April. I hope I can manage it myself as won't want to pay for an accountant to do it for me!

Philandbill · 06/02/2022 06:46

@Meredusoleil it wasn't very difficult, I just hated doing it. Keep all documents together and in order as you go along would be my top tip, your P60 and any interest statements as well as the receipts etc from your business. There are things that you set against the income too. I didn't need an account and, as long as you don't leave it until the last minute before deadline when they are very busy, if you phone HMRC with questions then they're really helpful.

Philandbill · 06/02/2022 06:48

Accountant not account, obviously! And I roughly calculated my tax owed from the business income and saved it through the year so the end of year tax bill was easy to pay.

Meredusoleil · 06/02/2022 08:40

@Philandbill

Accountant not account, obviously! And I roughly calculated my tax owed from the business income and saved it through the year so the end of year tax bill was easy to pay.

Thanks for the tips. But I tutor through an agency so don't have any paperwork as such. I have been keeping a record of my monthly hours if course and my pay. But that's about it 😐

Philandbill · 06/02/2022 09:46

If you work from home I think that you can put £2 a week against tax. So an extra £25 or so back. Or is the agency PAYE so you are taxed at source?

Meredusoleil · 06/02/2022 12:41

@Philandbill

If you work from home I think that you can put £2 a week against tax. So an extra £25 or so back. Or is the agency PAYE so you are taxed at source?

No. No PAYE. The agency said to tell HMRC that I was self employed.

Phineyj · 07/02/2022 08:02

What does your contract say? Mine says we have to ask in this situation but 'permission will not be unreasonably denied'.

Malbecfan · 11/02/2022 13:39

I am. I run a holiday cottage next to my house. In the past I have worked as a home-based franchisee for a company alongside teaching. With the franchise thing, I was already doing it before starting at the school so it was none of their business. I moved to this house 15 years ago and have been doing the holidays since then. My line manager and some SLT people know and the only time it has ever come up is when we get a new teacher starting who hasn't yet got accommodation and they ask if mine is available.

As long as you fulfil your contractual duties and don't work as something that could tarnish the reputation of the school, I don't see an issue.

UpDownRound · 11/02/2022 19:46

I did and had to sign a form at my old school every year...but I can't really remember what the form said! I think it was when we'd academised but night have been when we were still LA.

Hunderland · 20/02/2022 23:01

I do (am support staff tho) and was advised to ask the HT which I did, and they were v supportive.

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