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Ex-teachers Returning

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EdithGrantham · 04/01/2022 10:32

I've seen on the news this morning that the government are reiterating that they've asked ex-teachers to return to schools in the face of the staff shortage crisis. When pressed for numbers they couldn't say exactly but Maggie Throup (vaccines minister) said "It’s a matter of thousands of people who have come forward to say they will play their part"

I'm currently on maternity leave so a bit out of the loop. Is there any truth in this at all or is it like the laptops/CO2 detectors/any number of other things the government has promised but not delivered over the years?

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chocolateisavegetable · 04/01/2022 13:25

If 1000s of ex-teachers actually turn up in schools this term, I will hand-write a letter of apology to Boris apologising for ever doubting him. I have a feeling that I have no need of getting my pen out though.

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EdithGrantham · 04/01/2022 14:09

That was my thinking but wondered naively if someone might have evidence to the contrary.

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BitterTits · 04/01/2022 17:01

I haven't heard of any in my representative sample of one secondary school.

DolphinFC · 04/01/2022 20:20

I'm a member of a website that includes a lot of retired teachers.

They are all laughing.

chocolateisavegetable · 04/01/2022 20:32

I'm not surprised Dolphin !

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EdithGrantham · 04/01/2022 21:28

Me neither, I guess it's only a matter of time for it to become apparent that it's not going to happen.

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MrsHamlet · 04/01/2022 21:40

My aunt used language that I've never heard from her before. I think it was a hard no.

chocolateisavegetable · 05/01/2022 09:29

@MrsHamlet

My aunt used language that I've never heard from her before. I think it was a hard no.
Did she say "not for all the Money, Money, Money in the world" ?
MrsHamlet · 05/01/2022 13:50

You're incorrigible

rosesinmygarden · 05/01/2022 19:06

I know many many ex teachers. None of us are going back.

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EdithGrantham · 07/01/2022 19:06

Absolutely don't blame you @rosesinmygarden

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CheesecakeAddict · 09/01/2022 08:05

Not visible in my context. In fact, I'm seeing the number of teachers leaving or openly admitting to looking for jobs outside of education increasing at a fast rate.

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EdithGrantham · 09/01/2022 12:46

Not surprise at all @CheesecakeAddict, I'm on maternity at the minute but had an email from my head about the catch-up tutoring, teachers at school are being asked if they would like to do it, there would be 14 hours of work with the children and 1 hour for planning and prep so 15 paid hours overall but would also need to evidence what has been done and produce data to show progression show I would guess you'd need to do at least a third of this time again. The pay for this would be £270, I almost made a thread on AIBU about how insulting this is but backed out!

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CheesecakeAddict · 09/01/2022 14:23

@EdithGrantham it's the same at our place. I teach quite a niche subject, of which I am the only teacher in school. They approached me with this exact same thing as if they were giving me the opportunity of a lifetime, then when I turned it down, was hugely guilt tripped with members of slt tracking me down on my duty and at lunch time to persuade me because I'm the only person who is qualified to do it. The thing is, I flagged the kids up over lockdown who were doing no work, and it was ignored but still had to provide work. So I spent lockdown planning work that didn't get done, live lessons that only 1 or 2 kids turned up to, spent time chasing up the work of those that hadn't done anything, calling parents, getting HoY involved etc and now they want me to do more work because only now they realise how far behind the kids are and the exam board have openly admitted they see the grade boundaries for our subject being higher because it's something that can be easily done independently, it's just extremely time consuming, which the kids have had lots of with everything being closed and meet ups weren't allowed. Its beyond insulting.

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EdithGrantham · 09/01/2022 16:03

Will they have to get someone from outside to do the catch-up for your subject? I'm in primary so we're only doing catch-up for core subjects, I have wondered if no-one volunteers and they have to get someone external then the school will surely end up topping up the government funding and the external person will get much more than we were offered, which will be another kick in the teeth but it's all what ifs at the minute so I'm putting it to the back of my mind and just going to enjoy maternity leave!

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Piggywaspushed · 09/01/2022 16:38

This morning, Zahawi said around 500 teachers had answered the 'call to arms'. 500.

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EdithGrantham · 09/01/2022 17:02

@Piggywaspushed so not thousands then Hmm to be fair I'm surprised it's even that many!

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Piggywaspushed · 09/01/2022 17:08

Me too.

CheesecakeAddict · 09/01/2022 19:15

500 will be the supply needing a definite income after partners have lost theirs.

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