Part time but mornings not full day?

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So in an email headteacher has just mentioned shes speaking to HR about future part time contract that I've asked about. Looking at 0.6 or 0.8 but hinting that I'd be in every morning then my ppa and part time hours off would be in the afternoons.
Not sure how I feel about that- in some way it would ease the childcare as I could do pick ups but also means no full day off. Anyone do that?

I don't, and I haven't worked with anyone that does, but I can see the advantages once your dc are at school.

You consistently get to do all the Literacy and Numeracy that tend to happen in the morning. Easier than trying to plan your part of the week and your jobshare trying to do their part of the week. This way you can plan your own subjects.
You never go to staff meetings - which for the most part has to be seen as a bonus.
From the home pov, you only need wrap around care for breakfast club.
You get to know their friends, their teaching staff their friends' parents and build contacts.
OTOH - you never get to go to an assembly, but that could happen anyway if they have their celebration assemblies on a different day from your NWD
You are able to take them to things after school, or have a friend round sometimes, or read with them or chat with them on the walk home from school.
Little bit of negotiation will be needed for Training days.

If you have dc who are too little for school, I'd definitely want the full days though.

Is your HT sure they have someone who wants to do afternoons though ?

Yes I'm starting to think afternoon off might be good. I'm unsure about someone doing afternoons though.

I work mornings only and it's a complete pain really. I can never do anything for a whole day like travel and visit people, get a haircut and colour or shopping. By the time I get out I get two hours until I pick my own children up. Everything at my school happens in the morning so I do the class assembly, meet the parent meeting etc. every year. I do have to go to staff meetings because if I didn't I'd never know what was going on and miss out on subject leadership meetings. It does not ever really feel like part time!

And let's hope that your job share is today, imagine coming into a messy room everyday!

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I know someone who did it.

She was coming back after cancer and only wanted to work part time. However, she was also a self-congessed control freak and couldn't bear not to be in full charge of her class's basic skills.

As luck would have it, another younger teacher at the school was simultaneously considering asking for a leave of absence to pursue some artistic activities.

They joined forces and offred the school a job share - my friend in the mornings doing all the literacy, phonics, guided reading, handwriting, maths and science. The other teacher did the non-core subjects every afternoon. The mornings were longer than the afternoons (something for you to check carefully, OP) but they still preferred it that way, and did it for 5 years in the end.

The school relaxed into it, and were happy for them to arrange things between them eg one of them having a long weekend away, or one going on a course or even Christmas shopping while the other just stayed for the day, as well as covering for one another's illness if they could.
Things to check:
Is the morning the same length as an afternoon?
Will you have a heavier marking load? If so, is there anything that can be done to offset?
Will you be expected to stay on for staff merting after school (even 50% of the time)?

In the end, the school can say this is the only part time scenario they can offer, but you might find it works for you.

Yes, mornings are longer so you definitely be paid accordingly.

I did it and it was awful. Probably 75 or 80% of the teacher workload for a tiny bit over 50% of the pay (and only even that when I pointed out mornings were longer). Can never just finish work off in the afternoon. Hard to speak to parents. All the fun things that get booked in occasionally fall in the afternoon so you never benefit from those odd times when you have no planning/marking. I work fewer hours on a higher hour contract now because I do full days. I'm sorry but I really, really would recommend against it.

Thank you again @plotato good advice

I would hate that! You’d end up with the bulk of the planning, marking and assessment as you’d be doing all the core subjects. I bet you’d end up being directed to stay to some staff meetings as well for your CPD and end up with trapped time.

And ALL the early mornings!

I much rather do 3 full days.

I lasted a term doing 5 mornings only, handed my notice in at the half term
Doing all the literacy and numeracy planning and of course all that heavy marking, no time for the fun stuff,which are usually afternoons
Tried hard to leave at lunch, but there was always something that prevented quick dart
By the time I got home, had lunch and got the books out to mark, it was nearly time for me to pick my child up from school, consequently still working late into the evening and doing more work at weekends than when I did 3 full days
I was told to attend staff meetings every other week, so I was still in the loop and of course trying to manage subject responsibilities was thrown in
Definitely full time for part time wage

Ok thanks everyone I think I'll be saying no to mornings! At the moment my headteacher seems to be avoiding me and not answering emails so I'm still fulltime and no end in sight at moment!

I worked mornings only and was paid 0.6 but also had time off for ppa for some of the morning too. It was hard work but as I was paid more for the longer "half" of the day, I didn't mind too much. I didn't need to pick children up after school though. If I did, I think it would have been difficult as I often left at the end of the lunch hour.

I think this would work well for the children in your classes, they would get all their literacy and maths with one consistent teacher and then the lighter afternoon bits with your share.

So 2 full days and 3 mornings 1ppa and 2 as unpaid time off. It was that or nothing before Christmas.
This is until xmas but I'm pushing for 0 6 and full days afterwards.

I loved doing mornings only - but you do need to hammer out things like pay relative to hours, PPA time, staff meeting requirements.

Didn't really get the benefits of the afternoon off BUT that gave me time to mark, plan, prep and I could go home with no work for the evening or weekends.

Meant I had time to liaise with the other teacher.

Meant I could pick my own children up from school and spend guilt free time with them.

Worked really well for our family and my work life balance, rather than having to wait to hear how things went and then adapt at short notice as had been the case in a more standard 0.6 role.

@lancrelady80 thanks, I think it actually might work for me. My only problem is the staff meetings etc that were having difference of opinion on.