Part time working- pro rata

[mde1982]

Hi all

I recently dropped from a full time teaching role, to a 0.8 role. Same school, same job but across 4 days instead of 5.

I've got less days but have the same number and length of duties, parents evenings, open evenings etc as a full time teacher.

Would I be right in thinking I should be doing 0.8 of a full time role (so 0.8 of the teaching load, 0.8 of duties, 0.8 of parents evenings etc) or is it reasonable that I do more on the days I am there in order to get the days off?

Thanks in advance.

You should do everything 0.8 pro-rata. Get your union involved if you have too. The school is taking the piss otherwise.

I think 0.8 is the worst deal for part-time, so make sure you stand your ground from the beginning. Does someone pick up your teaching on the day you are not in (0.2) or has your teaching just been condensed in to the 4 days you are in?
From my experience there is a big difference between how primaries and secondaries approach this. We only go to staff meetings and do parents evenings if it is "our day", and the non-working day teachers can go in if they want to and will be paid overtime, but it's totally their choice. They do try and move the days around term by term for the 0.6/0.4 jobsharer so they get some of the load on their days. But as a 0.8 they always fall on my working day I feel a bit short changed, the same as a colleague who works four days Tue - Fri misses out on bank holidays that fall in term time.

@User1055

I think 0.8 is the worst deal for part-time, so make sure you stand your ground from the beginning. Does someone pick up your teaching on the day you are not in (0.2) or has your teaching just been condensed in to the 4 days you are in? From my experience there is a big difference between how primaries and secondaries approach this. We only go to staff meetings and do parents evenings if it is "our day", and the non-working day teachers can go in if they want to and will be paid overtime, but it's totally their choice. They do try and move the days around term by term for the 0.6/0.4 jobsharer so they get some of the load on their days. But as a 0.8 they always fall on my working day I feel a bit short changed, the same as a colleague who works four days Tue - Fri misses out on bank holidays that fall in term time.

It's a bit of both really. I'm secondary and as a full time teacher I taught 41 out of 50 periods across a 10 day timetable cycle.

This has been reduced to 33 periods out of a possible 40 over an 8 day timetable cycle.

However 80% of 41 is 32.8, not 33. So it's been reduced but not by the full pro rata amount and when you then couple that with still having the same amount of break duties, parents evenings, open evenings etc as a full timer, all those little 10 minutes here and there add up to become quite significant.

You had nine frees a fortnight as a full timer? Is that usual for your school? Are you in a private school as they don't have to stick to the burgundy book.

@noblegiraffe

You had nine frees a fortnight as a full timer? Is that usual for your school? Are you in a private school as they don't have to stick to the burgundy book.

Head of Department with 2 subjects under my leadership.

41 teaching, 4 PPA, 2 line management meetings (one with my manager, one with a person I line manage), 3 unallocated which were technically leadership but could be used for cover if needed.

An academy school but one which committed to follow STPCD when we converted.

Are they covering your 0.2 head of department? If they are not negotiate pay, for those extras you do on your non working day - however, this can cause issues, that if they need a head of department too be available for parents evenings/ open days, they could say, the role needs to be done full time, so that there is someone available to talk to parents. If they are covering, then it should clearly be pro-rata.

I asked for a colleague to be appointed to the role as 0.2 for their development and to step up on those days I don't work. This was refused so in that essence it isn't being covered.

But I am good at not doing anything I don't choose to do on my day off. So I might clear some emails, or do some marking or whatever but I'm choosing to do that instead of doing it before or after teaching on my working days.

It also transpires that a lot of head of department meetings occur on the days I don't work, so I don't attend them.

I always put an Out of Office on so when someone emails me they get told I'm not in school and the day I'm next in. They won't get any reply until that date at the earliest!

Interesting, they are almost saying head of department meetings are not required, unless someone is attending in your place - or you and your department are missing out.

Not particularly. My line manager updates me on everything and, like most meetings, pretty much anything that gets said that's important is then followed up by email over the next few days.