Behaviour deteriorating so badly in primary school

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Children as young as year 1 swearing constantly. A handful in each class with unmanageable behaviour. Constantly swearing and abusing teachers, other adults and class mates. Physically fighting children and hurting teachers and adults.
Everyday damaging school property.
Is this normal? I feel like it's been normalised at this school but surely this is particularly bad?

I've found behaviour has deteriorated hugely after covid.

This year has been by far worse than last year.
Today I was called a c*t paedophile, fKing b*ch and my TA was told to suck off her mum. When i said how hurtful this was especially as TAs mum has died they turned round and said sorry go suck off your dead mum from their grave.
It's utterly exhausting and we are now up to 4 members of staff off with stress. Being short staffed and having to deal with this seems untenable.

Wtf where on earth do you teach? Surely this isn’t common in primary schools especially at this age? I know it wouldn’t be acceptable in any of my DDs schools. The kids would be skinned alive by most of the parents if they knew their children spoke like this 😮

I have never been spoken to like this. I have worked in secondary and been told to f off from time to time. You need to look for a new job and your SLT needs to step up. This would not be acceptable in any school I have worked in unless this was a child with EBD issues and even then there would be a way of managing this such as time out to avoid this kind of escalation.

This is every class. I would like to say I have it the worst but there are classes worse. SLT say teachers need to be more effective with behaviour management. However, consequences are never followed through with from above and ultimately children know they can keep on.
A child was lasooing a skipping rope and broke the skin of a dinner lady. Knives thrown in the dinner hall towards SLT.
Children running up and down corridors.
You name it and it's been made to feel like this is normal. Many are looking for new jobs as people don't want to be spoken to in this manner on a daily basis.

Hang on, what age are these kids telling the TA to suck off their dead mum?

9 years old (year 5)
Swearing even from year 1 though.
I didn't think I'd lived a sheltered life but some of the language and abuse I've heard has shocked me completely.

Bloody hell, I hope safeguarding forms are being filled in! This is not the normal level of terrible post covid behaviour OP!!

Not normal (although based on a previous job I can believe it - and I do think some of the things that go on in primary would shock secondary teachers as these children are typically removed from mainstream in around Y5/6). Get out. There are no medals for working in difficult schools and unfortunately no extra pay or anything either.

You've beaten me to the safeguarding concerns. It's very 'adult' language and I'd be concerned as to where they've learnt it from.
Really sorry to hear that you're experiencing this and not getting the support you (or the pupils) need. I'd be looking for a new job.

What are they watching online at 9 years old to come up with that kind of language?
I’ve been in a secondary where all boundaries of acceptable behaviour have been eroded. This sounds like the primary version. Time to get out of there, I sincerely hope.

My husbands colleague today was repeatedly told she was a fat c&&t with a smelly Fanny. Honestly it is SO depressing.

Yes, it's gone to shit since covid, and is mostly getting worse.

But I'd still say this behaviour isn't typical and shouldn't be ignored by SLT.

It sounds as if the school staff have been conditioned over time to believe that this is normal infant/junior behaviour and so accept it. It absolutely isn't and there should be significant consequences in place, a clear plan and enforced policy by SLT and regular consultation with parents to ensure/create support from home wherever possible. If home are part of the problem then it's even more important that the school does something.

If these issues aren't addressed now, who are these children going to grow up to become?

I have no advice but this is utterly appalling and is in no way even approaching normal. I don't think this feral behaviour can be explained as being due to the Covid shit how.

This is so far from normal it's just, well, there are no words.
I've been teaching for 19 years (secondary) and worse I've ever had is 'bitch'.
I would be devastated if my son's primary was like this and remove him as soon as I could. And if I taught somewhere like this my notice would be in.

It's good to have confirmation of what I already knew. I've been here a while and although there has always been some pockets of challenging behaviour I have never known anything like this.
We had spitting, booting glass through and I was personally told to go and jump off a well known bridge in our city.
I wish I was making it up. My husband is open mouth shocked when I say what has happened. I'm so run down and exhausted and I haven't got the energy to think about getting another job but I know I need to.

Is there anything in the Burgundy Book about duty of care by the employer (SLT) towards the employee (you)? It will be about a safe environment.

I don't teach in the UK, so am not across the latest version.

This is appalling! In 25 years of secondary teaching the worst I was called ( to my face) was a ‘stupid cow’. The boy was suspended for that, private school.
I have seen some nasty things written on desks, but never heard language like that. Find a way out; life is short.

35 years

Get out and fund a better school. That sounds ridiculous.

I've taught at inner city schools and the worst one I've had was that I was "the worst fucking teacher ever". Year 6, followed by internal exclusion for a week.

I'm now at a through school and teach Year 1. Walked my class to PE past some of our secondary kids last week, who kindly called each other "shithead" and were happily swearing at each other. My reflex was a stern "Language!", which they responded to with a polite "Sorry, Miss."
They don't know me. I don't teach in their section but I would have left my kids with the TA for a few minutes to march them up to the head of secondary, had the response been any different.
Luckily, most of our kids are actually really lovely, well-behaved and respectful.
So no, it's not normal and the behaviour you have described would lead to permanent exclusion at ours. We are an independent school, so have every right to cancel contracts for children, who cannot behave themselves.
I'd say get out and find somewhere else.

I see nothing in the Burgundy Book.
This is your recourse, should you wish to stay. You need to be in a union:

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1974/37

In the very early 80s in the UK, a pupil told me to fuck off. They were expelled. How times have changed.

A number of teachers have gone to union reps. They have written down our concerns. Thank you @echt for the document I will have a look.

My daughter has been to primary and is now in secondary in London (granted both private) and no one would ever dare swear at a teacher because they would be suspended/expelled straight away. All the kids have been through covid lockdowns, so it has nothing to do with it. Unbelievable that your management is normalising this.

Xela, the process for exclusions in state schools is more protracted and more difficult all 62 pages of it.

One of the things that purchasers of private schooling are buying is the power that the school has to not admit / remove disruptive pupils, even when such disruptive behaviour is due to a special educational need.