Part time teacher Qs - PPA, INSET & planning!

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Started a new school and part time job share this academic year. Previously I was full time in a single form entry! I'm a KS1 teacher.

PPA - I'm 0.4fte (working 2 days), how much PPA should I get? 1hr ish?

INSET- I was initially told I only need to attend 0.4 of the INSET days (so 2 INSET days) because I'm on a 0.4 contract. However, all bar one of the INSET days fall on my working days. Does this mean I have to go to all the ones that are on my working days, or can I just go to 2 and take the other days off? What do other part timers do?

Planning - how do you split the planning fairly? It's a 2 form entry school with the other class teacher full time, so planning needs to be split between 1fte, 0.6fte and 0.4fte(me).

Help!
Thanks

I never understand the idea of not wanting to attend inset. Inset is designed typically for cpd and training, why do so many of you not want to take part in things that make you better at your job and help develop your career? Do you have like, no aspirations to be better?

Why do you have the desire to make people work unpaid, Ellie while those around them are being paid to attend? That’s a pretty shitty attitude.

OP, you need to work out your directed time allocation. You need to work 0.4 of a full time teacher’s commitments. This might be 0.4 of meetings and 0.4 of INSET but doesn’t have to be. I’m doing more INSET than my allocation this year because I’m doing fewer meetings.

What are you going to do about parents evenings? If you are going to attend them all, then you can cut back elsewhere.

Ahh thanks @noblegiraffe I hadn't even considered meetings, I go to 50% of them as they fall on my working day every other week. I hadn't thought about parent evenings either, I'll find out. Thank you!

@EllieNBeeb I do have aspirations and want to better my career. That's why I've chosen part time to sustain my career whilst raising my family, rather than leave the profession. I don't work for free though, I take no work home either. I never understand those kind of people.

Inset as a part timer with children is a nightmare. In my last school I was expected to go to all of them regardless of my working days. Some months I’d end up £200 out of pocket as I’d have to pay nursery on days where I wasn’t earning anything.

Did you claim for your extra days, @ScarletLake, if they fell outside of your contracted hours?

Independent school so they said no to reimbursing me!! I’m now back in the state sector!

I'm slightly confused about the INSET days. If you're paid for two days out of the week then surely you just attend on those two days: it doesn't matter if those are INSET or normal working days. Nothing extra is added to your work allocation by them being INSET.

The only questions would be around if those INSETs were days off for time taken at twilights if you hadn't been at those twilights. That's when it could get complicated.

Regarding meetings, ask to see your directed time allocation and see how many meetings have been included in that. If they've managed to work it so 50% of meetings have been included in your 40% directed time then that's fine. If they haven't, that's an issue.

If INSET is the days you work - you go (like you would any other)

If they are not on the days you work you can either get paid for the day - or get time off for going .

Nope, I'm part time and I work every day, but I do not attend every INSET.

They aren't 'working days', they are outside that and should be pro-rata.

Noble
I understand that when you work every day but part time on each day. If you stayed for a full day of INSET, you'd be working additional time over your weekly contracted hours.

But when you work full days but only part of the week then surely that's different. Doing a full day of INSET on a day you are already paid to work a full day on means that there's no extra hours. In fact, having that INSET off would mean you worked less than you were contracted to in that week, wouldn't it?

If INSET weren't considered working days and are outside of that measure then surely we'd all get paid extra for them, full time or part time.

They're not considered working days for the purposes of directed time calculations, they are considered separately, just as meetings and parents evenings are.

Full time teachers are expected to attend and are paid to attend all meetings and parents evenings and INSETs. Part time teachers only need to attend a pro rata amount of all of them even if they fall on a working day. Like I said, I'm attending more INSET this year and fewer meetings. It's not about the working week, it's about the working year.

Where it falls down is that some teachers get paid extra to attend these events if they are on a non-working day. This pisses off those part timers who work every day and so will never be paid extra.

Part time working is a bit of a mess in the Burgundy Book. It assumes everyone has a neat timetable with full days off.

For those who do work full days on a part time basis, like the OP, wouldn't having those INSET days off (on a day they would normally work) mean that they were under their directed hours though?

So if, like the OP, you were 0.4, you'd do:
INSET - 5 x 0.4 = 2 INSET days
Teaching days - 190 x 0.4 = 76 teaching days.

Total: 78 days so that works out as 2 days a week for the 39 weeks. Let's say your days were Monday/Tuesday and all INSET happened to be a Monday. If you only attended 2 out of the 5 then you'd end up only working 73 out of the 76 teaching days you owed as a result.

I get that it's a different kettle of fish for those like you who are part time every day or even part time some days.

Such a minefield. Think I might just ask school if I can see my directed time allocation, although it's interesting to hear other takes on it!

Let's say your days were Monday/Tuesday and all INSET happened to be a Monday. If you only attended 2 out of the 5 then you'd end up only working 73 out of the 76 teaching days you owed as a result.

Bank holidays also tend to be on a Monday....

Schools shouldn't always have INSET on the same day. For obvious reasons they always tend to be Monday or Friday though.

I always go to insets on my usual working days, it’s no bother & an easier day than with the children, no planning etc. I get paid for insets on my non-working day and nearly always go to them because otherwise you miss out on info / end up playing catch up.

Yes ppa is about an hour.

I’m in a 1 form entry so my job share & I overview plan together then fill in the details & resources for our own days. When I worked in a larger team we just tended to play to our strengths & preferences when divvying up planning.

I get paid for insets on my non-working day and nearly always go to them

Would you go to them if you weren’t?

@noblegiraffe no I wouldn’t but that’s not what’s being asked here? And I possibly would have, once upon a time…it took a bit of time for me to work out how to ‘be’ as a part-timer.

2nd post on the thread was suggesting part timers should work for free. Glad to hear you wouldn’t!

I'm part-time. Due to how the back holidays fall over new year, the extra one for the jubilee being added on the Monday after May half-term and some INSET on Mondays, if I didn't attend a couple of INSET on my days off this year I'd be down on my required number of days. So I'm doing them and I can just teach my normal days. I'm keeping a close count though, over the year, in case I've added it all up wrong!

I'm fed-up of part-time, though. For many reasons but being asked (told) to attend x, y, z when it's supposed to be a part-time job is annoying me! Just because I'm upper pay scale, they just tell me it's expected.