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Year 4 Multiplication Skills Check scores?

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ShipshapeShore · 28/06/2021 21:28

Looking at the results this morning, we were really pleased with our children (I'm the class TA). Most had scored 23-25. This was until the head told us that the pass mark was 100% and less than 40% had achieved this. The poor teacher is now really down hearted and worried that there will be repercussions even though we did lots of practise and encouraged the children as much as we could. Would anyone mind sharing a vague idea of how their class did for comparison, e.g. 45-50%? I'd really like to go in tomorrow and help her to feel a bit better Smile. Thanks.

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RuleWithAWoodenFoot · 28/06/2021 21:31

We havent done it. I might give them a go on it next week, it'll be awful. Like probably 15 out of 25.

ShipshapeShore · 28/06/2021 22:08

Thanks, I do think 25/25 is unrealistic for lots of ours and they did really well. I'm not sure I could get a perfect score on it despite knowing my tables!

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beckypv · 29/06/2021 00:01

My son took this last week. He said his finger accidentally pressed the delete and enter button at the same time so he ended up with 0 as one of his answers. It probably meant he got 24. It would be very harsh if that resulted in a fail and subsequently reflected on the teacher. I’m amazed 25/25 is the pass mark (especially when my yr10 students tell me 35% is a pass in their maths exams)

twinkletoesimnot · 29/06/2021 02:11

I haven't looked at my class's results yet but tbh I'll be surprised if any of them pass.
100% is so harsh.
I saw at least 3 strong pupils mistype and 6 seconds is so quick.
I get that it's to test recall, but there must be a better / fairer way.

spanieleyes · 29/06/2021 06:46

The DfE haven't produced a "pass mark" so the head is talking rubbish! The only thing we have to go on is the results of the pilot last year when the mean average score was 18.4. Schools were then placed in bands depending on average scores, above 21.8 put you in the top 10% of schools, above 20.4 in te top 25%, above 18.5 in the top half of schools, below 16.3 in the bottom 25% and below 14.9 in the bottom 10%.
Once all schools have submitted results this year a pass mark MIGHT be calculated ( a bit like the phonics screening mark) but not yet.

twinkletoesimnot · 29/06/2021 07:01

Now that would be much more sensible!

How did you find this out?

spanieleyes · 29/06/2021 13:39

It was on Michael Tidds blog and came from the open spreadsheet data that was compiled, I've never seen anything "official"

twinkletoesimnot · 29/06/2021 19:05

Ok thanks Smile

As suspected none of mine passed. Less than 10 in the cohort.

2 were one away and 2 had two wrong. Lowest got 14.

twinkletoesimnot · 29/06/2021 19:37

As in none got 100%, but feel much better after what you posted @spanieleyes so thanks Smile

Rosesareyellow · 02/07/2021 15:43

We have two sets, mine being the lower. I’ll be impressed if even 1 got 100% - I wouldn’t be surprised if I didn’t get 100% tbh. We were told straight away by our maths lead what the pass mark would be last year - although I strive to get the best out of my class I can’t get myself worked up about it because the whole thing is so ludicrous.

Myothercarisalsoshit · 02/07/2021 23:24

We missed ours because we were all isolating. Result! I would have had about three passes in a group of 30 if it had been 100%. For a pass mark of 20 I would have had about 10. And I would have had 10 at the bottom end who would have scored in single digits. The time constraint is excruciating for them and they lose heart.

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