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Changing jobs and payscale

9 replies

Stevenage689 · 06/05/2021 17:47

This one may be a dumb question.

I'm on M6 now and would be looking to go through the threshold in September (when our targets are reviewed). But I am applying to jobs for next year.

Would it be normal to ask for M6 or for U1? And when does the money discussion come up? I can't actually remember the process at all from previous moves...

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LolaSmiles · 06/05/2021 21:09

If I remember correctly from my last application, I put my current spine point on the application and then discussed that I would be anticipating moving up in the autumn.

Workingmum34 · 08/05/2021 16:41

You would start on M6 in September and the have your review in October. At this point you can apply to go to U1 but you have to evidence you have met the criteria. Also some jobs are only up to m6 now.

Stevenage689 · 08/05/2021 17:17

Thank you both. I'll see how it goes at interview but it's good to have an idea in my head of what's normal.

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spanieleyes · 08/05/2021 18:13

The difficulty is that pay is no longer portable so the school could offer you M1 if they felt like it, they don't have to honour threshold and certainly don't have to honour evidence towards threshold. You will get what you can negotiate.

Stevenage689 · 08/05/2021 21:39

When does the negotiation happen? At interview or when they call to offer?

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Fieldday · 09/05/2021 09:13

Absolutely only after they call to offer. You don’t want to look at interview like you are just motivated by money.

Subordinateclause · 10/05/2021 04:02

I didn't negotiate it but spoke to the head about what the school could realistically afford when I looked round. She later told me she was impressed by this. No point applying if they will only go up to M4 or whatever.

Barbie222 · 11/05/2021 07:13

My advice would be to get UPS in a school that know you well before you move, or you'll be back to square one with gathering evidence and getting people on your side. I'm not sure I'd appoint to UPS if the candidate had only a few months of it tbh, I'd rather appoint on MS and see the commitment and evidence for myself.

watingroom2 · 11/05/2021 21:47

@Barbie222

My advice would be to get UPS in a school that know you well before you move, or you'll be back to square one with gathering evidence and getting people on your side. I'm not sure I'd appoint to UPS if the candidate had only a few months of it tbh, I'd rather appoint on MS and see the commitment and evidence for myself.
UPS does not move with you - and so far I have found one job offering UPS - I applied - was interviewed - instead of me - UPS teacher they employed 2 NQTs.. make of that what you will!
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