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Anyone do 4 days?

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Cerealtoast2 · 24/04/2021 08:31

I do 5 at moment but seriously thinking of asking to reduce. I'm wondering whether to request 3 or 4? If 3 they will have to have another teacher do 2. If 4 I think they would cover with HLTA. But that leaves me still with sane amount of paperwork/reports ..... I'm not sure head will allow 3 days and I'm also weighing up money.
Anyone do 4 at primary school? Or 3- which 3?

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Chocs44 · 24/04/2021 13:06

I'm going back to four days next year hopefully. Friday off and another teacher covers it. In the past when I did this I still did all the planning, report writing and parent eves but had a full time allocation of ppa. Friday is more of a stand alone day in our school so it meant I still taught all the maths and English and the Friday teacher could cover individual subjects so it worked well. Your head would have to provide some good reasons for you not to go to three days.

BackforGood · 24/04/2021 20:36

In Primary, I'd never do 4.
As you say, it is still then considered 'your' class and you end up with 99% of the work for only 80% of the pay.
Not only all the reports, but also all the planning. Marking. Tracking. SEN Meetings. Pastoral and social care meetings. Assemblies. Probably playground duties. Christmas plays. Concerts. Sports day arrangements. Trips. etc etc etc
If you do 3, then you make it very clear you are sharing the workload with your jobshare partner.

Cookiecrisps · 25/04/2021 07:48

I would do 3 days rather than 4 because of the reasons the PP outlined. I think with 4 days you would be given 100% responsibility for planning, data, parents evenings etc so the only way your workload will reduce is not teaching the 5th day but you will have planned and resourced it all which takes ages. With working 3 days they are more likely to employ a job share teacher so it will be a shared responsibility for the class.

thebookeatinggirl · 25/04/2021 12:03

Depends on who does the 5th day. I did four days for a few years, and the 5th day was covered by an experienced teacher who also covered my PPA.

On her day and PPA she did maths (mental maths and fluency) English (grammar and spelling focus), all stand alone and then did Science, PE and RE. She did all the her own planning and assessment, wrote her sections of the reports, helped me with data, IEP stuff and pulled her weight with Nativity/assemblies etc.

It helped that she covered PPA in all the FS and KS1 classes as well, so was around and in school on the days I was teaching so we had lots of face to face communication. I got all my planning and prep done on my 5th day 'off' and actually had free weekends, which was amazing.

Floobydo · 25/04/2021 12:47

I used to work 4 and now do 3. You get a much better job share with 3 (plus I do school work on 1 of my days off and then get an actual proper day off which I never did with 4). The trouble with 4 (in primary) is its still seen as your class as others have said and you get landed with nearly all the admin still.

Depends why you want to go part time - I work pt as I have young(ish) dc so 3 days gives me time to do more with them in the week. When dc are older I’ll possibly go back to 4 for the pay as I would still pretty much get a weekend that way.

Meredusoleil · 25/04/2021 20:19

Definitely ask for 3 days and if they refuse, you could compromise on 4 if they won't budge. When asking for 3 days, suggest your job share partner also do 3 days so one day overlaps and you can take your PPA together.

Having worked 3 days a week for longer than I have taught full time, the best days would be imho Mon-Wed. That way you get the bank holiday Mondays off and you get most of the INSET days too. I would definitely want Fridays off personally.

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