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Batley, Yorkshire.

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manchestermyself · 25/03/2021 22:49

See: www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/protest-batley-grammar-school-completely-20258762

Why no arrests (or fines)? Compare/contrast with the recent events on Clapham Common....

Furthermore, looking it from an educational point of view.... what has happened here? In schools these days we very much work as a team to create and organise schemes of work and individual lessons. Staff rarely go off-piste so to speak, did this teacher? He seems quite young and inexperienced (5 years in the job I believe) to be Head of the R.E. Department, so did he create the resource unilaterally, or was it part of a scheme of work created by, or with others?

Finally, the media reports all say the school has apologised 'unequivocally', but some say so has the individual concerned, whilst others say not. So which is it? Could it be that the school has apologised on his behalf, which would be wrong if he feels he has done nothing wrong.

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StocksAndScares · 26/03/2021 02:36

Given the controversy around this issue, I think we should really wait for all the facts to come out before commenting.

manchestermyself · 26/03/2021 08:25

@StocksAndScares

Given the controversy around this issue, I think we should really wait for all the facts to come out before commenting.
We know enough, including that a Muslim charity called 'Purpose of Life' released the name of the teacher concerned & in view of what happened in France not so long ago that is a pretty 'uncharitable' thing to do...

We certainly should be able to discuss my first point - why did the Police take a low-key approach to this protest, when they did not in London, at the Sarah Everard vigil?

Here is a good summary of the situation as it stands:

"In its 400-year history, Batley Grammar School will not have witnessed a scene like it. On Thursday morning, police officers stood at every entrance. On the main road outside, traffic had come to a standstill, a blockade put in place by officers.

On Carlinghow Hill in the West Yorkshire town, Muslim community leaders, parents and their children gathered outside the school gates, chanting in unison and demanding one of its young teachers be sacked on the spot. A few hours later, the school would announce the teacher’s suspension and the crowd would later melt away. Their job was done, for now.

The protest has thrust Batley Grammar, founded in 1612 by the Reverend William Lee and now a co-educational academy, into the limelight. But the origin of the dispute lies in a classroom lesson – on the subject of religious blasphemy – taught three days ago, on Monday, by one of its religious education teachers to a classroom of middle school teenagers.

What happened is now the centre of an internal investigation – the outcome will be scrutinised up and down the country. But what is clear that children came out of the class, seemingly in distress and deeply offended. Their religious teacher had shown them a cartoon or caricature of the Prophet Mohammed during Monday’s lesson.

According to one report, the teacher had told the children what he was about to show them would be controversial and they would tell their parents. If true, it is a prediction that proved to be all too accurate.

It’s not confirmed what was shown to the children but on social media parents would later complain they were “French” caricatures – a reference, it seems, to the deeply insulting Charlie Hebdo cartoons which the magazine published in 2012. Three years later the cartoons led to a terrorist gun attack on its Paris offices. Twelve people were murdered in the atrocity.

Another version of events suggests the children were shown an infamous cartoon by a Danish cartoonist that also provoked worldwide demonstrations when it was first published in 2006. The cartoon is open to interpretation either showing the Prophet Mohammed with a bomb in his turban or a generic Islamist terrorist with the bomb. Either way the cartoon is deeply offensive.

By Monday evening, tensions were inevitably rising. One parent in Thursday’s protest insisted the teacher had shown the images before. “It’s the second time this teacher has done this so they want him to be sacked," the parent told the local newspaper.

But quite what was shown is unclear. A reporter working for The Telegraph on the ground must have asked 20 parents and members of the community what precisely the teacher had shown the children but was unable to establish exactly what or the context. Many of the parents had heard second-hand reports but none necessarily seemed to know exactly what had happened.

Police block the road leading to the school
Police block the road leading to the school CREDIT: Lee McLean/SWNS
By Tuesday, the message was spreading. Parents approached a charity that works with the school called Purpose of Life. The organisation, based in West Yorkshire, has donated computers to Batley Grammar School and worked on humanitarian aid projects abroad.

Mohammad Sajad Hussain, from the charity, said he first received messages of concern and upset on Wednesday evening.

"We've been informed by parents from their children that they have been shown a picture of the Prophet, peace be upon him, who had a bomb in his turban," Mr Hussain told The Telegraph. "Fairly well-respected members of the community have confirmed the same as well."

By Wednesday night, the storm clouds were gathering. On Facebook, Zeeshan Mohammed published a poster declaring: “Defend the honour of our Prophet Mohammed.” In capital letters it said: “URGENT” and called for protesters to gather outside the school. It named the teacher – The Telegraph has chosen not to do so – and explained: “A teacher deliberately showed derogatory caricatures (French Cartoons) of our beloved Prophet Mohammad and told the students that it was his right to show this!”

The post went on: “He failed to apologise or accept any wrong doing when challenged by parents. It is imperative that ALL OF US turn up to demand the resignation of this teacher as an absolute minimum and fulfil our duty of defending the honour of RasoolAllah.”

Aware of Covid regulations, protesters were urged to attend in their cars if possible from 7.30am.

The school was now all too aware of the problem engulfing it. Batley Grammar’s headteacher Gary Kibble sent out a letter to all parents on Wednesday evening.

“The school would like to thank parents who contacted us on Monday 22 March highlighting concerns with a resource used in a RS lesson that day,” wrote Mr Kibble. “Upon investigation, it was clear that the resource used in the lesson was completely inappropriate and had the capacity to cause great offence to members of our school community, for which we would like to offer a sincere and full apology.”

Mr Kibble announced that the resource – presumably the cartoon – had been withdrawn as a classroom resource and the “suspension” of the lesson itself from the curriculum.

The protesters duly gathered at 7.30am joined by community leaders, among them Mufti Mohammed Amin Pandor, a local scholar and director of the Peace Institute. “What has happened in the school, we are appalled,” he told the crowd just after 11.30am. “What has happened is totally unacceptable and we have made sure that the school understands that.” The school had been preparing a statement, he said, but it was insufficient. “We have asked for amendments on the statement to say that they are very apologetic and they apologise. All the resources that were used have all been pulled out.”

Then he announced, before the school had, that the teacher had been suspended. “Due process” needed to be followed, said Mr Pandor. “You know you can't just dismiss someone like that, they have due process.”

At midday West Yorkshire Police issued a statement acknowledging “a small demonstration at the school”, while the local bus company announced public transport had had to be diverted. By midday, the parents were demanding the headteacher come outside and talk to them and shortly after that police began to threaten protesters with fines for defying Covid-19 regulations. The crowd began to disperse.

Outside the school, parents were furious and upset. A woman in her 40s with a child at the school said: "We have been told by the children that the image shown was from Charlie Hebdo. This is what some of the kids who were there have come out of school and told their parents.

"That connection makes us even more angry because those are famous images, everyone knows how offensive they are. I can't believe a religious studies teacher wouldn't know."

A man in his 30s added: "As far as I'm aware this is the first time images such as these from Charlie Hebdo have been used in a classroom. I can't think of any valid reason as to why anyone would do this, especially a teacher of religion."

By just before 2pm, the school announced the teacher had indeed been suspended and the crowd melted away. Mr Kibble went on television to apologise in person while the teacher who had caused the upset was said to be in hiding and given police security. The row had begun in a classroom in Batley Grammar School on Monday but its ramifications are likely to be felt for many, many days to come."

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manchestermyself · 26/03/2021 09:05

Latest News:

There are reports that the school is closed to students today - 26/3/21.

It comes as more protesters have arrived outside the school this (Friday) morning.

It is reported that the school has switched to remote learning for the day.

Meanwhile the teacher and his family are in hiding and under Police protection. How much is this all costing?

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radiateforme · 26/03/2021 09:31

@manchestermyself

Latest News:

There are reports that the school is closed to students today - 26/3/21.

It comes as more protesters have arrived outside the school this (Friday) morning.

It is reported that the school has switched to remote learning for the day.

Meanwhile the teacher and his family are in hiding and under Police protection. How much is this all costing?

Horrific. Absolutely horrific. Apparently he used a photo of the prophet Muhammed with a bomb on his turban to teach about blasphemy. It is reminiscent of the French teacher who was murdered for a similar non crime.
manchestermyself · 26/03/2021 10:08

www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/protestors-warn-go-batley-school-20259950#comments-section

"A protester has warned they will stand outside of a Batley school every day until a teacher is sacked for allegedly showing pupils derogatory caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad.

Protesters have arrived outside Batley Grammar School for a second day after the teacher showed the "completely inappropriate" cartoon in a Religious Studies lesson.

The teacher in question has been suspended and is believed to be under police protection due to the backlash from angry parents. But protestors are calling for the teacher to be sacked and say they will protest every day until that happens."

But does not the Qur'an teach about forgiveness?

"O you who have believed, indeed, among your spouses and your children are enemies to you, so beware of them. But ... if you pardon and overlook and forgive - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."

Qur'an 64:14

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MaMaLa321 · 26/03/2021 11:04

So what is the teacher's union doing in this?I thought unions were about protecting their members?

Andante57 · 26/03/2021 12:30

@MaMaLa321

So what is the teacher's union doing in this?I thought unions were about protecting their members?
Yes. I will be interested to see what the union’s reaction will be to this.
phlebasconsidered · 26/03/2021 14:25

Poor teacher. If he was using it to teach and discuss about blasphemy and intolerance then I genuinely think it's fine. We don't yet live in a country where we are not allowed to show all opinions. The protestors were behaving outrageously.

How are we meant to teach them to be free thinking and tolerant when religions kick off like that?

phlebasconsidered · 26/03/2021 17:56

Hmm, i've done a bit more reading and it seems he was a bit rash in his approach.

It's a real weird one for me- I genuinely believe that religious debate should be able to be addressed and NO one religious group should have a right to dictate teaching. It's one reason I left a post at a Catholic school- the outlook was restrictive. I also believe education should be utterly secular - not that that helped the guy in France.

I am interested to hear from any Ethics teachers on this. It must be an utter minefield.

winewolfhowls · 26/03/2021 21:18

I think the key here is the context. Depending on the tone and direction of lesson this is either a very good lesson but high risk or its a mountain out of a molehill where a teacher made a mistake. The lesson has been removed, school did an apology. I can't understand why this is such big news.
Makes me shudder though , poor bloke. This mistake could cost him his career.

notrub · 27/03/2021 12:21

When I studied to be a teacher we were shown a handout produced by Forest, promoting the benefits of smoking. It was supposed to be a in a lesson designed to teach how reading a single sourced article can lead to being completely misinformed. This all seemed fine until we were asked to consider what would happen if a pupil took the flyer home and showed it to their parents with no context??

I have no idea what the context was in this instance - i.e. what the lesson plan was, but I do know that in the UK, the freedom to mock others is essential. If we cannot mock, we cannot criticise and NOTHING should be beyond criticism.

My view is that unless British Islamists accept that THAT is part and parcel of life in the UK, they do not belong here.

NB I have no issues with Islam itself - it's just as daft as Christianity but if people wish to follow its teachings, it's up to them. And I certainly have no problems with Muslims, holding several as good friends - the majority of UK Muslims DO accept that this kind of aggressive insensitivity has no place here.

Newrumpus · 27/03/2021 20:29

I suspect this has little to do with religion

notrub · 27/03/2021 21:53

Demonstrations outside schools, unless you are a parent/guardian of a child at the school, should be a criminal offence in my view.

If people want to demonstrate, plenty of places to do that without terrorising children.

GrammarTeacher · 28/03/2021 09:01

I've been an RS teacher. There is no way I would ever have used an image like that to teach about blasphemy. It's just not necessary. There are much better ways to address the subject. I've taught the subject the day after terrorist attacks. I've taught the subject on the anniversary of losing a very good friend to an Islamist attack.
This was an inappropriate lesson. I don't go out to upset my students in any of my lessons. I am a Catholic who loved going to see Jerry Springer the Opera and watching Father Ted BUT I chose to watch those things. Students in class don't have the opportunity to avoid things like that and so we consider course content. I still teach Of Mice And Men. We consulted with the students before this during a curriculum review and make it clear that students can leave at certain points if necessary.
The teacher made a very unwise decision.
HOWEVER, that does not give the ok for the protests and the death threats which are far far worse.

manchestermyself · 30/03/2021 00:49

@phlebasconsidered

Poor teacher. If he was using it to teach and discuss about blasphemy and intolerance then I genuinely think it's fine. We don't yet live in a country where we are not allowed to show all opinions. The protestors were behaving outrageously.

How are we meant to teach them to be free thinking and tolerant when religions kick off like that?

Latest on this, what a nightmare:

It is from a paid site so I have copied the full txt:

"The teacher who prompted protests after showing a cartoon of the Prophet Mohammed fears that he and his family will be murdered, his father has said.

The religious studies teacher remains in hiding after receiving death threats and has told his family “it’s all over” and he will never be able to return to his job or his home.

Batley Grammar School in West Yorkshire sent pupils home last week and issued an apology after the parents of Muslim children gathered at the gates to protest. The RS teacher was described as a “terrorist” in a letter from one community leader.

His family has now accused the school’s head teacher, Gary Kibble, of “throwing him under a bus” by failing to fight his corner while he lives as a fugitive.

The teacher’s father said: “My son keeps breaking down crying and says that it's all over for him. He is worried that he and his family are all going to be killed.

“He knows that he's not going to be able to return to work or live in Batley. It's just going to be too dangerous for him and his family.”

The teacher, who lives with his partner and children, fears he will suffer the same fate as Samuel Paty, a teacher who was beheaded in Paris last year after showing his pupils a cartoon of Mohammed during a lesson on freedom of expression.

His father told MailOnline: “Look what happened to the teacher in France who was killed for doing the same thing. Eventually they will get my son and he knows this. His whole world has been turned upside down. He's devastated and crushed.

“When he starts speaking, he just breaks down and cries. He's become an emotional wreck.

“He feels that everything is broken and to be honest, it's hard to console him at the moment because that is the truth.”

The teacher was suspended by Batley Grammar School, and the school apologised to parents for the “inappropriate” use of the cartoons, taken from the French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo, whose staff were attacked by terrorists in 2015.

His father said a CCTV camera had been set up to monitor his son's home after neighbours reported gangs of young men arriving at the property.

The father said: “Even if he gets his job back, how can he possibly return to Batley Grammar School? It will be far too risky. And how will he be able to walk around the town with his kids, doing normal things knowing that he could be killed?

“Sadly, his life here in Batley is over.”

The teacher's mother has also gone into hiding, the father said, explaining: “My wife is petrified that we'll also be targeted and has become a bag of nerves since all this happened. She's unable to stay in our home. This whole incident has had a devastating impact on us, and we are all scared about the situation we find ourselves in.

“The school and my son have issued a full apology, and both have said that they won't allow the same thing to happen again. That should be the end of the matter and my son should be allowed to get on with his life."

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StocksAndScares · 30/03/2021 10:38

Have any of the unions released a statement yet?

Newrumpus · 30/03/2021 18:23

The unions have been a disgrace on this. We need to stand up for this teacher and not give in to bullying.

Newrumpus · 03/04/2021 12:28

Still nothing from the unions?

How can we support this teacher?

StocksandScares · 03/04/2021 15:26

I hope that teacher is offered a full refund from his union if they aren't willing to support him. Angry

suk44 · 04/04/2021 20:55

@StocksandScares

How do you know he is a member of a union?

Goldensyrupissticky · 05/04/2021 11:47

Teacher is a member of NEU, apparently there was a statement but I can’t find it anywhere. I was surprised at the lack of support voiced in the social FB union group. Whatever the rights or wrongs of the situation surely a union should protect a member from abuse?

ValancyRedfern · 05/04/2021 13:26

This is awful. Sadly it doesn't surprise me at all that the Union are nowhere to be seen. They are too scared of being seen as racist to defend their union member.

Newrumpus · 05/04/2021 16:13

It doesn’t really matter if he is a union member. The ramifications of this are so significant that all the unions should be proactively taking a stand in order to protect their members in future. ASCL made a weak statement but imho he has been let down by the head, the MP and the unions. Also the police. Thankfully some of the school kids seems to have some guts!

StocksandScares · 05/04/2021 16:17

If the union won't do/ say anything, then they're in the wrong job.

They also need to update their policies to make it crystal clear that they won't support teachers in situations like this. It's only fair.

JennyBlake · 30/05/2021 16:40

@Goldensyrupissticky

Teacher is a member of NEU, apparently there was a statement but I can’t find it anywhere. I was surprised at the lack of support voiced in the social FB union group. Whatever the rights or wrongs of the situation surely a union should protect a member from abuse?
Well the trouble is the NEU is 'woke', they are between a rock and a hard place and they won't really want to offend the people who have been offended by this.

By the way, I think the teacher should not have shown the images, but the reason I have come on here today is to provide some new information:

Apparently, the investigation is over and the suspension lifted, so the teacher can go back to work....

Of course, there is a big difference between can go back to work - in Batley and actually going back to work, in Batley.....

www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/batley-grammar-school-teacher-allowed-20685895

What got me puzzled about this story and another one that I provide a link to below is the absolute vehemence shown by the muslim community when these things happen - their refusal to accept an apology and the call for sackings and in the case of Batley much much worse.

Surely a common theme running through all the great religions should be forgiveness....

The story below was reported recently about a school in Sheffield, it didn't get the same coverage as Batley as I believe it did not involve the Charlie Hebdo images. But one parent at least said he would no longer allow his children to attend and called for a deputy head to be sacked:

'A Muslim parent is refusing to send his children to school after a teacher mistakenly showed an image of the Prophet Mohammed during assembly.

Staff have since apologised for the incident, which happened at Hunter's Bar Junior School in Sheffield last week, saying the teacher was left "mortified" by the "genuine mistake".

But Atif Mohammed has rejected the apology and demanded that the school's deputy head, who he believes was responsible for accidentally displaying the image, step down.

Religious leaders are now calling for calm after the incident, which comes just over a month after hundreds of angry protesters descended on Batley Grammar School following a similar situation.'

ph.news.yahoo.com/muslim-parent-refuses-send-children-school-image-mohammed-110737518.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMjK6t25mhAYGB_-TV8kIvZ4qCk8ZcEonKNlcfJcZ1f28vkO-jVLi9kBuC9CrBJOVXsM_h6hf4iCOvEqbAcRfT_1s4bxGFqALayfHLrMiFjZS-kw8cQLN8As9RpvdWHGiZhFOtpqjp3Zng0QVNraJLTUG4J0iBK1cAAq_c9onU1q

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