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The Forty Second Republic - Lockdown 3 online learning struggles continue

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SantaAssociationRepresentitve · 14/01/2021 21:13

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff only – a sort of room of requirement. Baiters, haters, goaders, and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Do not give the staffroom password just in case it attracts the wrong sort

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the booze is stashed - Thirsty Tuesdays, Fizz Fridays now in operation.

If you come with a stick to goad us then that is not allowed in the staffroom and you will receive a detention

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noblegiraffe · 17/01/2021 10:42

So sorry for your loss, January Flowers glad he went as peacefully as you could have hoped. Hopefully it’s a comfort that you saw him at Christmas and via FaceTime yesterday. Take care of yourself xxx

noblegiraffe · 17/01/2021 10:45

That’s sneaky, Salty. Forcing everyone into the lateral flow farce. Can you ask the school for a supply at home like NHS get? It seems weird that they would trust teachers to test kids but not themselves.

starrynight19 · 17/01/2021 10:46

We are getting our supply for staff next week. They are to be done at home like the nhs.

Appuskidu · 17/01/2021 10:47

@starrynight19

We are getting our supply for staff next week. They are to be done at home like the nhs.
Are these weekly random tests?

Are the school using them on KW children to replace SI?

EnemyOfEducationNo1 · 17/01/2021 10:52

So sorry for your loss January Flowers

Salty - that's wrong on 2 counts. 1. They should not be doing testing in place of isolating, 2 you should be able to do your own testing at home!

Cracklefraggle · 17/01/2021 10:53

January so sorry for your loss Flowers. Make sure you take the time you need and we are all here for you.

RigaBalsam · 17/01/2021 10:54

January so sorry for your loss.Thanks

Cracklefraggle · 17/01/2021 10:55

Think I can cope with a small screen, am used to things being small

EnemyOfEducationNo1 · 17/01/2021 10:56

Well done Honey! 💪

JanuaryChill · 17/01/2021 11:08

Thank you all.

Here we are - Austrian study since new variant shows pupils infected at same rate as adults in schools:
www.spiegel.de/international/germany/new-study-explores-risk-played-by-children-in-covid-spread-a-b0a90b6f-1d21-41e8-a2d0-13751aa3ce09

Concluding paragraph:
British epidemiologist Gurdasani also doesn't understand why, in the UK at least, new ideas to help children continue learning in the pandemic haven't long since been developed.

There haven’t been good plans for some time now for allowing children to continue learning, despite the virus. Her conclusion: "It is important that schools are made safer. Had this been done much earlier on, it's possible that school closures may not have been needed."

and a Rotterdam outbreak had 15% of a school community testing positive:
www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01/new-coronavirus-variant-scrambles-school-risk-calculations

SaltyAF · 17/01/2021 11:08

Unfortunately I think many SLTs will enjoy the heroics of keeping a school running though Covid times. Staff wellbeing won't be central to that.

MrsHamlet · 17/01/2021 11:09

So very sorry about your brother january

Piggywaspushed · 17/01/2021 11:10

Interesting january

Sorry to hear your news Sad

Monkeytennis97 · 17/01/2021 11:10

@JanuaryChill thinking of you and your DB. Love to you x

SaltyAF · 17/01/2021 11:13

British epidemiologist Gurdasani also doesn't understand why, in the UK at least, new ideas to help children continue learning in the pandemic haven't long since been developed.

Quite. My DC's primary is still offering no teaching whatsoever. DS's 'learning' on Friday was a spelling worksheet, online maths game that they were told to do again if they already done them and 'genius hour' - open ended with no guidance. Meanwhile I am willingly and happily trying my utmost to keep my pupils learning the same content they would if they were in school, alongside my KW/V commitments. It's no wonder teachers' reputations are in tatters when there's that much variability.

Floobydo · 17/01/2021 11:15

I’m so sorry for your loss @JanuaryChill

noblegiraffe · 17/01/2021 11:19

Her conclusion: "It is important that schools are made safer. Had this been done much earlier on, it's possible that school closures may not have been needed.

Interesting that eminent scientists needed a zoom call to tell them what they could have learned ages ago if only they’d read Mumsnet.

Every bloody thing we said vindicated.

Interesting that in the Austrian study primary and secondary kids were infected at the same rate where secondary were way more infected here. Is it because we had no mitigation measures at secondary and they do?

SaltyAF · 17/01/2021 11:42

So, are other schools not going ahead with serial testing to keep close contacts in at the moment?

Appuskidu · 17/01/2021 11:47

@JanuaryChill

Thank you all.

Here we are - Austrian study since new variant shows pupils infected at same rate as adults in schools:
www.spiegel.de/international/germany/new-study-explores-risk-played-by-children-in-covid-spread-a-b0a90b6f-1d21-41e8-a2d0-13751aa3ce09

Concluding paragraph:
British epidemiologist Gurdasani also doesn't understand why, in the UK at least, new ideas to help children continue learning in the pandemic haven't long since been developed.

There haven’t been good plans for some time now for allowing children to continue learning, despite the virus. Her conclusion: "It is important that schools are made safer. Had this been done much earlier on, it's possible that school closures may not have been needed."

and a Rotterdam outbreak had 15% of a school community testing positive:
www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01/new-coronavirus-variant-scrambles-school-risk-calculations

Reading stuff about other countries is interesting. They find a problem, tell people about it, get experts in to try to find out why it happened and discuss what could be done to fix it.

Our government are told about problems, ignore it until it becomes impossible to do so any more, lie about it, blame teachers and unions for it happening in the first place and our media follow suit, showing misleading photos of tiny class sizes all wearing masks!

Piggywaspushed · 17/01/2021 11:47

Wait, I thought the teaching unions were uniquely militant??

www.theguardian.com/education/2021/jan/17/lecturers-warn-they-will-strike-if-forced-to-resume-unsafe-teaching?fbclid=IwAR3HiokXCyK1jdpGerJaBJp8FzUYlr0vSru-Up7yqMlpZ80hiAfdf0fA-fE

Also reported today in the ST that they don't know how many prison staff have died. It really is a scandal that occupational deaths are not being gathered. What is also a scandal is that the ST reports that but, if writing about teachers, reports the ONS findings with no apparent sense of scrutiny or irony.

Appuskidu · 17/01/2021 11:49

Are they not collecting data about occupational cases/deaths or not reporting it?

If they’re not actually collecting it, how can they say that any occupation is more or less safe than another??

Piggywaspushed · 17/01/2021 11:56

They FOI said they weren't collecting information about deaths.

noblegiraffe · 17/01/2021 12:04

The ONS data still isn't out. Do they not work weekends, the same way they didn't work over Christmas?

If they aren't collecting occupation data, then they definitely shouldn't be allowed to go on the news and refer to the totally out of date occupation data from May when talking about vaccinations.

starrynight19 · 17/01/2021 12:05

Appuskidu just rolling them out for staff only as far as I am aware in primary.

Appuskidu · 17/01/2021 12:10

@noblegiraffe

The ONS data still isn't out. Do they not work weekends, the same way they didn't work over Christmas?

If they aren't collecting occupation data, then they definitely shouldn't be allowed to go on the news and refer to the totally out of date occupation data from May when talking about vaccinations.

Definitely.

Why don’t any journalists ask questions like this?

Even a sniff of a piece of news suggesting schools might not be safe is just buried and never mentioned again.