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How final is your PGCE subject?

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pr0crastinating · 15/12/2020 10:52

Hello, I will be starting my PGCE application for September 2021 in the coming months but was just after some advice on choosing a subject. I know I want to teach secondary science, but am undecided on either Biology or Chemistry. I am also aware that science teachers will teach all 3 up to GCSE and am happy with that.

Ideally id like to opportunity to teach both up to A-Level in the future (not necessarily at the same time) but dont know whether that is possible without undertaking 2 seperate PGCEs.

My degree is life science based so much more Biology than chemistry, but I have A*s in both at GCSE and A-Level (2013 and 2015 respectively).

Presumably, if i opt for chemistry (largely due to the bursary and job prospects) I would have to also complete a SKE? How would this work in terms of timings and applications, would it be organised for me by the PGCE provider? Would this also then mean I would only have the option to be a chemistry teacher at the higher level in future?

Apologies for the million questions this is just all very new to me so trying to get my head around it!

TIA :)

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BettyCrockaShit · 15/12/2020 12:25

Hi there,

I started off doing a secondary PGCE (I'm a primary class teacher now as secondary wasn't quite the right fit for me). My specialisms were French and German, but I was advised that French and Spanish would make me more 'marketable'.

Once I had secured my place to study for my PGCE at university, I did a remote SKE in Spanish via TES. They weren't great as a provider, to be honest, but there are plenty of good universities offering online SKEs. Although it was a lot of work, it meant that I could continue work until I began my PGCE full time, which was the right choice for me. I also really enjoyed learning something new in my own time. Is this something that has been suggested to you? Might be a good fit as you've got plenty of time to squeeze in your SKE before the start of the PGCE year.

Hope that helps!

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 15/12/2020 17:06

Go for Chemistry - harder to find good Chemistry teachers. Plenty of biology teachers around.

Not many schools will let you teach both subjects at A-Level and science departments are large departments like English and Maths. A-Level teaching tends to be shared as the reward to teaching KS3.

MrsHamlet · 15/12/2020 18:19

You can only do one PGCE :)
Definitely chemistry... better still, physics! They're like hen's teeth.

northernlass81 · 15/12/2020 20:54

There are definitely more biology teachers around and the bursaries may be higher for chemistry but honestly I'd go for the one that you have the most passion/excitement for. You're the one that has to teach this for years to come and it will really help if you really enjoy it. Once you have a PGCE, you are a teacher and can technically teach any subject your school feels you are able to. You don't have to qualify in different subjects.

reefedsail · 16/12/2020 06:05

I trained for secondary science and I'm now a primary SEN teacher. You can definitely change!

Agree with PP to go for chemistry, more difficult to recruit to and you will therefore have better choice of schools- and enjoying teaching is ALL about finding the right school.

ValancyRedfern · 16/12/2020 09:09

Not final at all. Especially within science. Agree with others that Chemistry will be more in demand.

pr0crastinating · 16/12/2020 09:33

Thank you all! Very helpful :) Will crack on with my application x

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