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The Twenty-fifth Republic - circuit breaker before/during/after half term

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 13/10/2020 18:33

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MrsHamlet · 21/10/2020 21:44

Ah... we used to have a "learning conversation" in the books. It died a death and I'm not sad about it. The green pen industry might be though.

ohthegoats · 21/10/2020 21:51

Kids can't read my perfect cursive handwriting, adding 'next step' or extension questions is pointless.

I do whole class feedback - look over the work, find general issues and attack that accordingly in the next lesson.

RigaBalsam · 21/10/2020 21:52

@ohthegoats

Kids can't read my perfect cursive handwriting, adding 'next step' or extension questions is pointless.

I do whole class feedback - look over the work, find general issues and attack that accordingly in the next lesson.

I wish we could do this but our SLT are obsessed.
echt · 21/10/2020 22:01

Kids can't read my perfect cursive handwriting, adding 'next step' or extension questions is pointless

My handwriting is less than perfect, and totally buggered after remote teaching since March, but even before I found increasingly students won't even try to read to read my writing, handing it back to me to translate. I hand it back to them and say come back next lesson after you've tried and we'll look at it then. What is noticeable is they can't even make a contextual guess at a word; they painfully peg through every word separately.

MsAwesomeDragon · 21/10/2020 22:10

I do whole class feedback too. I generally know what my starters are going to be for the next couple of lessons by the time I'm half way through the pile of books. Year 10 (tonight's marking) definitely need more practice on factorising quadratics. I'm not sure quite how often I can cover something without going insane though. And they're getting annoyed that we've spent lessons and lessons on it. I might just give up on it for a while and come back to it later in year 11

Hercwasonaroll · 21/10/2020 22:21

I do whole class feedback too. SLT hate it as there's no evidence beyond the sheet because the retrieval starters aren't obvious. But I'm convinced it's the best thing for them.

MsAwesomeDragon · 21/10/2020 22:28

I'm convinced it's best for them as well herc. And my SLT leave the maths department alone for the most part, because our results speak for themselves. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!

DrMadelineMaxwell · 21/10/2020 22:35

Any plenary that happens in my room is either self and peer marking with the purple pens...
Or...
Crap, I forgot that we now go to dinner 5 mins earlier...pack up quick and off you go!

What I really hate in my job is the relentless need to constantly reinvent the wheel in primary. And to still pile on lesson obs, PM meetings and gov meeting invites on top.of everything I do. I'm SMT but not dept and there is no time given for anything management. I'm spending some ppa next school week on a gov meeting on zoom. Discussing blended learning. No idea why.

hedgehogger1 · 21/10/2020 22:42

Got told off by a colleague today for not doing one way system properly. We have to go up the indoor stairs and out the fire escape stairs. I had taught on second floor gone down fire escape, gone in from fire escape on first floor. Bearing in mind we have staggered lesson times so my second floor lesson had already finished after the time my first floor lesson was meant to start...

Apparently I'm not allowed to come in the fire door, should have done all the way to the ground floor. Walked round the building to the in door. Then gone back up the indoor stairs to the first floor.

Can you tell it annoyed me?

Augustbreeze · 21/10/2020 22:48

[quote Piggywaspushed]Anyone want to read about unicorns?

schools.forhealth.org/risk-reduction-strategies-for-reopening-schools/[/quote]
🦄 s indeed! Harvard Smarvard....

(Weeps)

Hercwasonaroll · 21/10/2020 23:01

Will the madness never end.

SLT want us to set maths assessments via teams for isolating kids. Have they lost their tiny minds.

Augustbreeze · 21/10/2020 23:05

Apparently French public health have said that secondariy schools are the main source of infections. (Seen from French resident on the Data thread).

Yes @noblegiraffe I was wondering that too, as am already on half term. Especially as for various reasons I was expecting an outbreak in Y12.....

I concluded that SLT would have to contact us at home (phone for suspected contacts, maybe email for everyone else when they notify us). There is no other way, surely?

But don't know about the stage when we're all asked if anyone else believes they may have had close contact (not sure all schools do this, but am so glad we do), surely they couldn't ring 200+ of us? Potentially multiple times, if there were more than one day when cases were reported?

Although I don't know

Augustbreeze · 21/10/2020 23:06

I don't actually know how that last line appeared there.... Smile

Loshad · 21/10/2020 23:07

@Hercwasonaroll yup, we are doing remote assessments via teams as well for isolating kids.

Frlrlrubert · 21/10/2020 23:09

My writing is big, round, teenage girl handwriting. They still can't read it.

'What's that say?' they cry, at a word on the board in a sentence I said three times before I wrote it.

'Electri*al charge' - is that an e? No guys, it's a c over a smudge on the board, engage brains please!

(Is it half term yet? 5 more lessons!)

Hercwasonaroll · 21/10/2020 23:11

@Loshad There is just no way I'm doing it. Here's a non calculator paper.... Of course they'll all use a calculator. It's pointless and gives false data. I'm holding firm on this one. I'd rather assess them properly when they are back.

Loshad · 21/10/2020 23:17

I tend to agree. Obviously in science we don’t have non calculator papers and we “try” to limit cheating by having very strict time limits. I’m not convinced they are valid but arguing against such strictures at our place is like fighting with the tide.

Loshad · 21/10/2020 23:18

5 @Frlrlrubert, don’t make me jealous. 11/12 still to go.

Frlrlrubert · 21/10/2020 23:33

@Loshad

5 *@Frlrlrubert*, don’t make me jealous. 11/12 still to go.
Sorry, inset on Friday for appraisals, training on new KS3 assessment grades, and starting our lessons for the new isolation lesson format (which will take most of half term to sort as it has been dropped from a great height at the last minute), so only a full teaching day to get through tomorrow.
TheHoneyBadger · 21/10/2020 23:56

She does have a pro forma but doesn't use it. Then when reminded to use it she just uses one part of it completely ignoring that she's meant to fill in what ability the group is, what send students she needs to consider, what the learning objectives are etc.

I don't think she grasps how much work and years of experience goes into teaching 'appearing' effortless and thinks she can just make no effort.

I haven't filled out the observation form yet but have written a list of reflective questions for her to consider. The kind of questions that she should have at the forefront of her mind when planning and when reflecting on how a lesson went and how it could be improved.

I think everything needs spelling out to her multiple times yet ironically she doesn't get how explicit explanations to students need to be and how you need to repeat things multiple times to ensure a) they get it, and b) there's no excuse if they're not on task.

Unfortunately she needs to wake up to the level of work needed. I think small slots with very explicit targets is the way to go even though it makes my life harder. I am beginning to see glimpses of how she could have an effective presence but she needs to grasp the basics of what did you want them to learn, how did you plan to achieve that and how did you ensure they had learnt.

I'm out of touch with current buzzwords but the basics hold.

TheHoneyBadger · 22/10/2020 00:01

I might actually try to make her see how her difficulties with reflecting, explaining and following criteria could actually be strengths if she used them as a way of empathising with her students difficulties and therefore helping them to address them. The challenge is that she has to address them in herself (maybe this is the consciously incompetent bit) before she can exploit that understanding to help students itms?

echt · 22/10/2020 05:31

I'm happy to say I have a holiday on Friday. Smile The Grand Final public holiday was covidly-moved from its usual school holiday timing, so schools get it for once.

Yay!

MrsHamlet · 22/10/2020 07:09

Honey my dramatic response to her not having a proper plan in advance of the lesson would be to not allow her to teach the lesson. I've done that before and although they are outraged about it, they're really got nowhere to go with.

echt · 22/10/2020 08:18

My writing is big, round, teenage girl handwriting. They still can't read it.
'What's that say?' they cry, at a word on the board in a sentence I said three times before I wrote it

It's funny because it's true. Especially the bit having said it three times already. :o

Saucery · 22/10/2020 08:53

Letter for latest class isolation mentions PHE. The other 2 partial and full class isolations didn’t. Wonder if advice is different if it is the teacher who has tested positive?
I know medical confidentiality is the issue and I’d be reluctant to see that being compromised, but I think parental engagement with isolation would be different, particularly over a holiday, if they knew it was the teacher who had it, given that they know that teacher will have approached every single child in the class.
It highlights that the stay 2m away ‘where possible’ is impossible in a primary school environment.

I’ve taken on extra hours. Not to cover for Covid reasons, but a role that would have come up anyway. For all my moaning I love my job, but I’m veering between I’ll be ok and I must be MAD! on an almost hourly basis.

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