The Sixteenth Republic - waiting on the GCSE results show!

[StaffAssociationRepresentative]

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here only if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

If you are fed up with cakes and biscuits there is now a cheeseboard on offer

If you come with a stick to beat us with then please do so elsewhere and not in the staffroom

It’s as if Labour are having a competition to see just how many voters they can lose

I doubt this will lose Labour many votes. Who else are you going to vote for? The bloody Tories (that’s vomit not envy).

salty I think I might be a bit unusual as a teacher as I’m happy to accept that parents do use schools as childcare.

Society mostly needs both parents out earning a living. Kids go to schools & out of hours provision for 39 weeks a year. This lets parents go to work.

I know I use my kids school as childcare. I have back up plans if they get sick (or if schools close now) but I do rely on my kids school to allow me to work.

@StaffAssociationRepresentative

Just watched this -

Wear masks!

The end was interesting-‘listen to the public health experts-they know what they’re talking about’.

Not, ‘sack your country’s public health experts (PHE) when you decide you don’t like what they say any more’.

I also don't get offended by the idea we are childcare. My children's school is childcare for me.

I do have contingencies in normal times but they aren't all OK with corona.

We're not allowed masks. Disciplinary issue if we try. I think that's quite common.

I also don't mind the idea that we are childcare. Even in secondary, I often let year 7 and 8s hang around in my room for an hour after school in unofficial clubs (if there isn't a club that night that suits them) because they don't want to be home for hours before their parents.

Of course they’ll lose votes. You don’t have to vote Tory to not vote labour you might just become one of the many ex labour supporters who no longer vote and whose votes labour needs if they don’t want to keep losing by landslides.

Aside from blind tribalism I can’t see how any teacher, or sane parent, can defend Keir’s statement.

Starmer’s playing the long game. He either goes along with the falsehood that schools are, or can be made with minor adjustments, safe or he fails to extricate Labour from the Union-led puppet idea he is working hard to destroy. We haven’t had a credible Opposition for many years and this isn’t going to be a battle he chooses on the road to becoming one.

Aside from blind tribalism I can’t see how any teacher, or sane parent, can defend Keir’s statement

They can’t, but it’s years off before the next general election. Most people will have forgotten this by then.

You will never find a party that 100% tally’s with your view. You have to find the best fit. I’m traditionally a Lib Dem voter myself but that is becoming increasingly pointless year on year.

@WhenSheWasBad

Aside from blind tribalism I can’t see how any teacher, or sane parent, can defend Keir’s statement

They can’t, but it’s years off before the next general election. Most people will have forgotten this by then.

You will never find a party that 100% tally’s with your view. You have to find the best fit. I’m traditionally a Lib Dem voter myself but that is becoming increasingly pointless year on year.

Sorry but that’s incredibly patronising. I don’t expect or need to find anything let alone a political party to tally 100% with my views. Just someone with a sliver of integrity or concern about safety in a pandemic would do.

Have you namechanged recently?

There are some really clever, well informed people on this chain of threads and yet I have never felt patronised, or talked down to once until today.

Nor had I felt anyone put party political broadcasts ahead of safety in schools on here till today.

Have you namechanged recently?

No I haven’t. And apologies for sounding patronising, things don’t always come across the way they are intended when they are in print.

I don’t agree with Kier on this one but I think he’s made a judgment that people 1) won’t remember this in 3/4 years time 2) if they do remember it, they will still remember the Tories are even worse.

Anyone-regardless of party- who wants to be a politician is manifestly not fit to be one, it seems to me. Maybe we should just pick them like we do jury service.

Some start off so well but then the power gets to them. I mourn John Smith, he was poised to be great. Other than that, I struggle -Kier Hardy?

Anyone-regardless of party- who wants to be a politician is manifestly not fit to be one

so true.

This is why the advice to never discuss politics at a dinner party is useful. Genuinely very sorry to have caused upset.

Tony Benn? I admired Kinnock’s fire and tenacity in opposition but not sure about leadership.

Oh my god John Smith! I remember watching him speak and thinking wow he seems normal and intelligent and trustworthy. Tragic.

I’m sorry for being reactive. Just feel we’ve all been betrayed from all quarters

I’m sorry for being reactive. Just feel we’ve all been betrayed from all quarters

That’s alright, it is utter shit right now.

Have just watched the video of the Nashville doctor posted upthread and I actually feel quite upset.

@AugustBreeze

Have just watched the video of the Nashville doctor posted upthread and I actually feel quite upset.

Don’t blame you. However we’ve known this for many months. Countries with proper contact tracing were seeing transmission on a bus from which the vector person got off half an hour before the person who contracted it got on and didn’t touch anything the vector had been in contact with. I remember watching cctv coverage of the bus and the researchers explaining.

Even plausible deniability should have been abandoned by now. I’m not a womb wandering panic merchant but I’m a big fan of giving the public honest information and basing policy on it and allowing people to make informed decisions.

Our system of Erin boys propped up by spin doctors and complicit media moguls is like some kind of existential insult to 120,000-200,000 years of evolution. We may have been smarter when we were foraging berries and roots and hunting wild prey 🤦‍♀️

Eton!

Thanks for the new thread. I am away again from tomorrow and I don't want to think about schools reopening or shitty politics until I am home. I don't want to think about how powerless I feel!

Don’t Jenny! Have fun and avoid it all. Totally get the powerless feeling. Till today I’ve been letting it blow over me in recognition of the fact I can do nothing about it.

Keir’s statement just incensed me. Will try to get back to zen/Tao/reality of my levels of control state asap.

Oh gosh Salty you've started a war in AIBU!

Just seen the first 'topical' joke on Fb:

In line with latest fiasco ....Just seen that
A. A. Milne has been downgraded to
C. D. Milne

(Yeah I know, not funny for many......)