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The fourteenth republic - watching Scotland and ever changing DfE guidelines

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 02/08/2020 15:50

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here only if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

If you are fed up with cakes and biscuits there is now a cheeseboard on offer

If you come with a stick to beat us with then please do so elsewhere and not in the staffroom

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AngryAlpacas · 02/08/2020 18:52

Interesting that the DM teacher remained anonymous.

If you felt that strongly, surely it's a more powerful message if you're identified?

winewolfhowls · 02/08/2020 19:21

Best wishes for all Scottish colleagues, please do update us.

FrippEnos · 02/08/2020 19:30

You can tell that the "article" in the mail is made up BS many reasons but one of teh main ones is the wage scale that they have put in there.

Its a comedy of errors.

JulyBreeze · 02/08/2020 19:31

JAMA (American research journal I think) has just published a study of viral load in children - not good, esp for those who work with under 5s!!!!

Here's the conclusion:

"Discussion
Our analyses suggest children younger than 5 years with mild to moderate COVID-19 have high amounts of SARS-CoV-2 viral RNA in their nasopharynx compared with older children and adults. Our study is limited to detection of viral nucleic acid, rather than infectious virus, although SARS-CoV-2 pediatric studies reported a correlation between higher nucleic acid levels and the ability to culture infectious virus.5 Thus, young children can potentially be important drivers of SARS-CoV-2 spread in the general population, as has been demonstrated with respiratory syncytial virus, where children with high viral loads are more likely to transmit.6 Behavioral habits of young children and close quarters in school and day care settings raise concern for SARS-CoV-2 amplification in this population as public health restrictions are eased. In addition to public health implications, this population will be important for targeting immunization efforts as SARS-CoV-2 vaccines become available."

Piggywaspushed · 02/08/2020 19:38

A study of RIF (Risk of Infection) put nursery nurses at the top only just behind nurses for good reason...

JulyBreeze · 02/08/2020 19:46

What will Us for Them do with this I wonder?

FrippEnos · 02/08/2020 19:49

JulyBreeze

That is an easy one.

they will ignore it and continue to post the trash that they are pushing.

Piggywaspushed · 02/08/2020 19:54

They will doubt the source and then say:

'teachers need to be back in the classroom. Or children deserve an education. they have missed six moths of school and their mental health is suffering. Why should pubs be prioritised over school? Our children have been sacrificed for too long.'

Piggywaspushed · 02/08/2020 19:55

should be our and months but you get the drift.

JulyBreeze · 02/08/2020 19:58

I like the idea of children missing the six moths of school piggy!

Piggywaspushed · 02/08/2020 20:01

By the time I get back I fully expect the moths to have eaten all my books in my cupboard.

Mistressiggi · 02/08/2020 20:06

Dh is telling me to stop torturing myself by looking at the themforus page on fb.
I've heard a few people online saying they want to resign from their (Scottish) union, we are apparently getting a survey to complete about how we feel which might have been better sent out before the union agreed to this farce. Our deaths are lower although there are about 50million fewer people than in England. Saw this reassuring headline the other day "EXCESS deaths in Scotland were the third highest in Europe during the first half of 2020, with only England and Spain faring worse". Great.

Piggywaspushed · 02/08/2020 20:10

I have left the nonsense Facebook page again. They will no doubt add me again!

FrippEnos · 02/08/2020 20:17

Mistressiggi

The page has been made private since I last looked at it. So much for them being a transparent organisation.

noblegiraffe · 02/08/2020 20:34

The last paragraph of the maths teacher article is telling:

‘Schools should be the example for the rest of society to follow and teachers need to get a bit of backbone and say: 'Yes, we're going back as normal in September. The kids are entitled to an education and it's wrong to impose restrictions on that.'

Someone doesn’t like wearing a mask in Asda do they?

Piggywaspushed · 02/08/2020 20:55

Oh yes, that has U4T all over it.

I know they sent one of their missionary teachers to R4 this morning,too.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 02/08/2020 21:00

U4T sounds like a disturbing organisation, it started out with good intentions but seems like it is full of spin now.

A union card? Who has those? All sounds a bit old fashioned and a tad Stepford wives

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 02/08/2020 21:01

How do we say that U4T only represents a small group?

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echt · 02/08/2020 21:54

Another here who thought "union card"? I haven't seen one in years.

And why anonymous? Possibly because of what they said about the HT's risk assessment document they had to sign, which, if they did, would have been DEET ?standard. We had to say we'd read understood and conformed to working from home standards set by DET so that we were covered by Worksafe in the event of an accident at home while on lockdown.

Plainly invented by the DM.

hedgehogger1 · 02/08/2020 21:55

I've got a union card! With my membership number, lives in top drawer of side board. I used it once to get cheap car parking at an airport

CallmeAngelina · 02/08/2020 22:36

@noblegiraffe

The Daily Mail has a story from a secondary maths teacher (not me) who has cut up their union card in disgust at the unions and who has been telling all their pupils’ parents that the unions are blocking school reopening in September.

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8584189/Secondary-school-maths-teacher-appalled-intransigence-union-children-school.html

Weirdly, it hits Us4Them talking points and doesn’t sound like any teacher I know...

Just don't click on the 'Comments' section below, if you value your blood pressure.
CallmeAngelina · 02/08/2020 22:39

Dh told me last night I was "banging on" about this stuff. It's meant to be our 25th wedding anniversary tomorrow. I told him that if he wishes to make that milestone he should retract that inflammatory accusation straightaway.
Angry

fuckweasel · 02/08/2020 22:44

Another Scottish teacher with a sense of impending doom checking in. I am in a remote area with no cases since before lockdown but we are overrun with tourists now, so who knows if that will last.

Piggywaspushed · 02/08/2020 22:51

It's my wedding anniversary tomorrow, too Angelina! We have a new Sainsburys Local across the rod so DH doesn't have to go far to get my wilted flowers Grin

Piggywaspushed · 02/08/2020 22:52

across the ROAD ...

one day I will make it through a post without a typo.

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