The fourteenth republic - watching Scotland and ever changing DfE guidelines

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Oh my Lord July, what question did you ask??

The people spouting it don’t mean we need to adapt. It’s what got thrown at me when I refused to do something that would involve being less than 1m away from a colleague for 3hrs and sharing equipment.

I’d be ok with it if it meant ‘it’s going to be here for a while so we need to learn to adapt’.

Riga, I believe he’s known as the disgraced Neil Ferguson among deniers. Although in this case he seems to be pointing out the bloody obvious.

Yeah, if we are going to debunk Woolhouse and Cummings we can't really quote Neil as our bestie, sadly...

I don’t think it’s to do with that. It started before that. I think it’s got something to do with his modelling of foot and mouth, so you can’t trust anything he says.

Yes, that too. And his mixed messages at the beginning of all this. But then he is a scientist. He understands that evidence moves and changes. He doesn't have to lead and make decisions.

Oh, I know they don’t mean ‘adapt’ Rafa. Like a toddler can’t adapt to a broken banana or the impossibility of riding a duck, they just want to tantrum and uselessly demand over and over.

@Piggywaspushed

Yeah, if we are going to debunk Woolhouse and Cummings we can't really quote Neil as our bestie, sadly...

Agree he is disgraced but still clever but yes pointing out the obvious.

@Piggywaspushed I posted asking if anyone could link to any research showing that it's not feckless parents spending money on drugs that results in food poverty for children. But didn't word it as well as that!

Apparently I'm being lazy asking on MN (even though I explained I'd already tried to find it myself).

22 posts so far and no one's come on to say "You can"t find any evidence because there is no evidence, they're all drug dealers who'd sell their mum for a bag of skunk", which is the only risk I thought I was taking!

What comes up frequently on all these threads is NO ONE (not even teachers) understands the guidelines on isolation, SI, and positive tests.
Gave most likely doesn't.

The gov will tell schools to communicate this and schools don't understand it.

I confuse myself lokign at it but am pretty sure huge 'bubbles' will not have a tow test and everyone home policy. It's unworkable since our bubbles interact.

If Dorothy in my year 10 English class falls ill, whose job is it to ascertain who Dot sat near to in form time, maths, who she worked with in drama, who she sat with at lunch, who was near her on the bus ,whether TAs or teachers were close to her... etc etc etc??

In a school of 1800 that's a HUGE job. It's like someone is not being paid to be a contact tracer.

@Piggywaspushed

What comes up frequently on all these threads is NO ONE (not even teachers) understands the guidelines on isolation, SI, and positive tests. Gave most likely doesn't.

The gov will tell schools to communicate this and schools don't understand it.

I confuse myself lokign at it but am pretty sure huge 'bubbles' will not have a tow test and everyone home policy. It's unworkable since our bubbles interact.

If Dorothy in my year 10 English class falls ill, whose job is it to ascertain who Dot sat near to in form time, maths, who she worked with in drama, who she sat with at lunch, who was near her on the bus ,whether TAs or teachers were close to her... etc etc etc??

In a school of 1800 that's a HUGE job. It's like someone is not being paid to be a contact tracer.

Good point.

Michael Rosen’s comment earlier about the government putting all the guidance for parents into an easy to read poster, would be an excellent outcome.

I suspect this won’t happen though as I don’t think Gav has even read the guidance.

gave = Gav
tow = two.

They also don't know negative test result does not mean automatic return to school.

It's like what Michael Rosen said - the DfE doesn't know how to communicate with parents.

I can imagine in your given scenario, the instant that word got out about Dotty’s positive test, there would be hysterics from kids across the whole school which would spread like wildfire.

Tears, phone calls home, coughing, losses of smell/taste, phone calls from parents, more tears...!

When is the next reshuffle? Gav will be out.

No real surprises here!

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/german-girls-more-studious-boys-on-screens-during-pandemic-survey/ar-BB17Ayzf?ocid=spartanntp_edu

However, I do think parents spending more time a day with their kids , helping with their schoolwork, in a family that functions well will ultimately turn out to be a good thing.

I read earlier on a thread someone saying their boy spent so many hours gaming and this was destroying his MH . Turn the bloody thing off, woman. Unplug it. Chuck it out.

This from Poland. Strangely comforting we are not the only country with twats in charge:

He further said the conservative government would oblige parents to send their children back to school even if they worried about infections, as "a parent is not an epidemiologist"

I've got some right "lively and energetic" pupils in my bottom set year ten next year. Dya reckon it would be frowned upon if I conferred with their other teachers and tried to get them sat next to someone different for every lesson....

@hedgehogger1

I've got some right "lively and energetic" pupils in my bottom set year ten next year. Dya reckon it would be frowned upon if I conferred with their other teachers and tried to get them sat next to someone different for every lesson....

What’s the getting that the schools guidance that comes out next week tells teachers they aren’t allowed to go anywhere non-essential to prevent spread in schools?!

@Appuskidu well I'll be off to Barnard Castle for an eye test if they announce that.

The less desirable teenagers of my village have all decided to congregate at the playpark on my estate since our shop opened. Last two days this has involved loud shouting , running, flirting, congregating. Harmless (except for when they are bullying little kids and littering everywhere and the drug deal I just saw....) but really really annoying as a teacher.

I feel like going over and remonstrating in my best teacher voice , since I haven't had to do that for a while.

Was at a playground with my kids this afternoon. 2 picnic tables with 6 mums apiece all sat round shoulder to shoulder chatting. Group of boys turn up on bikes and have a friendly rolling ruck on the grass. Two teens turn up in charge of various age children all hugging each other. Group of 6 local running club members go past two abreast on the narrow path.
All very sweet and nice. But absolutely no social distancing.
There's me hand gelling my kids and reminding them to keep their distance, moving them on from equipment when it gets crowded. It's like I'm delusional. Even my kids grandparents don't follow the rules - I've had to insist FIL takes one of our cloth facemasks for the supermarket. And he's supposed to be shielding!
It's crazy. Everyone seems to have forgotten we are in a pandemic.

Same in my village Piggy. Every child from year 5 up is now out and about and roaming. My ds is solitary by choice and dropping him at his remote fishing location today I passed 3 of my new year 6 with 3 year 7 ,1 year 8 and 2 year 9 all in a gang outside the one stop. They'll be picking up satchel deliveries from the local county line year 10 and 11's to take around.
Our local police have reported a huge uptick in county lines action over lockdown.

My dog jumped on a couple of my year 9s having a snog.

Good plan mum

On another note....

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/georgia-class-quarantined-after-first-day-of-school-as-images-of-crowded-school-circulate-online/ar-BB17BMZO?ocid=spartanntp_edu

I reckon this isn't county line stuff here yet but that does go on lots in the town I teach in.

The boy I just saw dealing is the town vermin really but has been exploited and vulnerable and in and out of care all of his life so it's all objectively very sad. Luckily my DS stays well clear.

Isn't that just what it will look like here? Except with uniform....