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The fourteenth republic - watching Scotland and ever changing DfE guidelines

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 02/08/2020 15:50

You are most welcome to this school staff support thread to get us through stressful times. It is meant for school staff. Baiters and bashers can jog on somewhere else.

If you are NOT staff and just have a general education query please start your own thread.

You can play here only if you are a member of one the following groups-

-ABBA - anti bashers and baiting association
-SWAB - school workers against bashers
-SWOT - school workers opposing teacherbashers
-STARS - schoolworkers together against ranting + slurs

Other requirements for staff room entry include the ability to find the staff room, the ability to find a clean mug in the staff room, knowledge of the photocopier codes, and the ability to sniff out where the toffee vodka is hidden.

If you are fed up with cakes and biscuits there is now a cheeseboard on offer

If you come with a stick to beat us with then please do so elsewhere and not in the staffroom

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 04/08/2020 13:13

When cases were rising parents at my school started to keep their kids off and wanted worked sent home.

What is the tipping point? Our attendance dipped to almost 70%.

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TheHoneyBadger · 04/08/2020 13:15

I took ds out a week before lockdown. I let it be recorded as unauthorised absence. I didn’t expect work to be set Grin gosh the entitlement!

Piggywaspushed · 04/08/2020 13:37

I was off because I was ill, which meant my DS2 missed the end of year 11 and DH missed the last week of his school before lockdown. This is the nexus no one understands... That's 3 people out of education because of one person.

Piggywaspushed · 04/08/2020 13:39

riga thought you might like to see this.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-53637418

JulyBreeze · 04/08/2020 13:50

Did anyone hear Michael Wilshaw on World at One?? Oh my word!

Apparently we have a moral duty to be in school now ensuring that the disadvantaged children catch up.... I'm not sure how we'd be supposed to get them into school in the middle of the holidays? There was more but it'll just cause gnashing of teeth if I repeat it here..... Grin

FrippEnos · 04/08/2020 13:53

Ah yes, Michael Wilshaw a failed leader of Ofsted trying to remain relevant.

TheHoneyBadger · 04/08/2020 13:57

Hmm so they didn’t factor in wraparound care, nurseries, parks, transport etc (which would all obviously have to go up for kids to go to school and parents work) nor, as far as I could see, did they factor in compliance. Eg if 70% of contacts are contacted that doesn’t mean 70% will comply with self isolating.

Those are pretty big factors that would increase the risk or intensity of second wave and change the time it would hit.

Obviously also a UK wide model. Some communities obviously have far higher numbers of households with children, will have higher or lower rates of contact success and/or compliance rates after contacting whether due to economic, cultural or whatever other factors influence ability/will to comply.

Also some areas have many schools in close proximity.

Lots of variables obviously and they can’t model them all but fair to say their modelling would be slightly pessimistic in some areas and wildly optimistic in others eg large cities.

We’re being flagged as at risk of lockdown measures again in my area. I suspect by late August we’ll be hit with some kind of measures.

The other thing not seeming to be addressed is the lag effect. Eg. We won’t know for weeks obviously what effect pubs opening has really had but more importantly even if they did decide to close pubs so schools could open there’d be a lag before their closures actually reduced levels of community infection. You can’t pretend closing pubs on August 31st makes school safe to open on September 1st. You’d need a buffer zone of at least 3-4 weeks wouldn’t you?

WhyNotMe40 · 04/08/2020 13:58

FFS teaching is my job, not my life. I haven't taken a vow of teaching as a moral undertaking! I do my job, I get paid. Idiot

plasticboxesrock · 04/08/2020 14:17

I was appalled by Wilshaw. Some of my colleagues have been in school every day - for SLT including weekends - since Feb half term. They NEED and DESERVE a proper holiday.

monkeytennis97 · 04/08/2020 14:24

@WhyNotMe40

FFS teaching is my job, not my life. I haven't taken a vow of teaching as a moral undertaking! I do my job, I get paid. Idiot
This.
noblegiraffe · 04/08/2020 14:32

Wilshaw got huffy when I asked him on a webchat here about his statement that if teacher morale is low it’s a sign that you’re doing something right. Misinterpretation apparently.

And yet he keeps coming up with more stuff that suggests that the straight interpretation is the correct one.

Piggywaspushed · 04/08/2020 14:35

Wilshaw is the only name which makes me angrier than Gove. At least Gove has never been a teacher.

noblegiraffe · 04/08/2020 14:39

Oh no Gove makes me angrier because Gove is still relevant.

noblegiraffe · 04/08/2020 14:42

“I see that the government has published a document “Guidance for full opening: schools” with subsections for parents and carers. It’s up on your gov.uk site. Do you know what kind of reach gov.uk has? Do you have a clear idea of how many people don’t read it?

Might it not be a good idea to produce a simple leaflet for all parents, teachers, school workers, school students and children that explains quite clearly what we should all be doing in September?”

Fully fledged bastard of a good point, Mr Rosen.

NeurotrashWarrior · 04/08/2020 14:51

Lol my school is closed currently to give the caretaker and cleaning staff a well earned break. And do necessary renovations for sept!

Mistressiggi · 04/08/2020 14:58

@JulyBreeze I was just coming on to see if anyone had heard this, as I didn't catch the twatty fucker's name. You need to curtail your holidays and tutor pupils (not all of them, just the ones who are behind - can imagine how that would go down with parents) and this is a moral imperative. He can shove his moral imperative up his arse and set it on fire.
Results day here Sad results all downgraded

WhyNotMe40 · 04/08/2020 15:00

I think it would be a mistake to underestimate the Gove-Cummings partnership in what is happening.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 04/08/2020 15:00

Wilshaw vs Gove - is like a who has the biggest willy contest. Big Gav is in third place.

Wilshaw was paid a fortune and now he is bleating on about teachers at the coal face and moral duty/work more hours/give up holiday. Twat!

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 04/08/2020 15:01

🤦‍♀️ I forgot to add Cummings to the Big Willy contest

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Piggywaspushed · 04/08/2020 15:15

Public school boys do chopper squad/willy wanging. I fully imagine Boris used to do this. I am not sure I can imagine Gove or Cummings doing this : too sinister.

Gav would never do such a thing. He would be the one relentlessly bullied by public school boys for being a prole and be involved in some awful hazing mishap. Proceedings for this would be directed by Gove and carried out by Boris, Jenrick, Hancock and that awful Dowden. Rishi would be somewhere watching cricket with your granny and being all charming. Watch out for that one.

RigaBalsam · 04/08/2020 15:45

[quote Piggywaspushed]riga thought you might like to see this.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-53637418[/quote]
Bloody hell! They get worse.

Lidlfix · 04/08/2020 16:14

If anyone has a four leave clover or rabbit's foot, I'd rather take that into the arena than a mockingjay pin. Seriously, if 100% from day one with no distancing wasn't bad enough I now have heartbroken pupils whose marks have been downgraded. And my own DDs who did much worse than they would have if they'd been able to sit the exam.

Piggywaspushed · 04/08/2020 16:15

I follow, but don't comment on, the Scottish results thread lidl. I was sorry to hear about your disappointments, personal and professional.

I've got DS2's GCSEs in a couple of weeks.

NeurotrashWarrior · 04/08/2020 16:31

I'm sorry Lidl :(