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Pregnant teachers returning in September?

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IlanaWexler · 02/07/2020 10:00

I'll be heavily pregnant in September and although I've been working from home since March, I have been told I will be expected to return to school when/if it re-opens (with a risk assessment in place). Is anyone else in a similar situation?

My pregnancy is high risk so I wouldn't feel comfortable going in and I'll most likely have to start my maternity leave early (& therefore miss out on pay) when I could easily continue working from home, making resources etc. It's frustrating.

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ohthegoats · 02/07/2020 10:27

In our school they are taking early mat leave.

Littlelot · 02/07/2020 14:50

I think I’m really lucky -
I’m due beginning of October but my head has said that I can keep working from home until my due date. I’ve been given a risk assessment that says I’m WFH and that it will be reviewed after my maternity leave if still relevant. I think for them they don’t want to take any risks (they know this was a last chance IVF after a MMC last summer) and also they’d be timetabling me for 3 weeks and then having to get someone to take over my classes anyway. I think that for the students it will be less disruptive to have one teacher from the start. But I do know I am so lucky to have a supportive SLT who definitely look after their staff. They reap the rewards though as the staff are very loyal and turnover is very low.

NeurotrashWarrior · 02/07/2020 15:42

Speak to your Gp op.

Newmummyxx · 02/07/2020 17:17

I’ll be just starting my third trimester in September and also under a consultant.
I haven’t been expected to go into work since March but quite nervous to see what will happen in September. x

Subordinateclause · 02/07/2020 17:58

I'm in my first trimester but working in school currently (and with non-distancing infants at that). I feel okay about it but it's very much my choice; I'm not sure how I will feel by the third trimester if things are still bad. I've not read what today's guidance says about CB and ECV teachers yet...

Subordinateclause · 02/07/2020 17:59

Sorry CV teachers not CB

booklover164 · 04/07/2020 11:40

I am in exactly the same situation and will be 30 weeks when schools return. I am very anxious about it but don't think there will be an option to wfh if all children are expected in. I really don't want to take early mat leave as I was hoping to work up until half term but also can't see them supplying an adequate risk assessment!

booklover164 · 04/07/2020 11:41

I am in exactly the same situation and will be 30 weeks when schools return. I am very anxious about it but don't think there will be an option to wfh if all children are expected in. I really don't want to take early mat leave as I was hoping to work up until half term but also can't see them supplying an adequate risk assessment!

Maincat · 04/07/2020 13:12

No one can force you to take early maternity leave, it would be discriminatory and illegal. There is a legal requirement to ensure you are SAFE at work; thus if the risk assessment cannot ensure 2m social distancing then you need to be either given a role that's away from everyone/work from home, or you are suspended on full pay. Know your rights! Check RCOG for the latest guidance (esp third trimester) and get in contact with Pregnant Then Screwed for free, specific advice on the law. I'm sorry you if don't have SLTs who treat you like human beings. X

Maincat · 04/07/2020 13:20

Just for clarity: Your employer can only make you start your maternity leave early if you are absent from work within four weeks of your due date and only if that absence is due to pregnancy-related sickness or health and safety reasons. For them to force you to do this any earlier could be a breach of your employment rights.

IlanaWexler · 04/07/2020 15:47

Having spoken to SLT, it looks like I'm going to be on paid leave from the start of September until I'm 36 weeks pregnant and then on maternity leave.

No idea why that's preferable to paying me to work from home but there we go. I'm just glad I don't need to go in!

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booklover164 · 04/07/2020 17:05

Thanks @maincat that's really helpful. I was expected some further guidance since shielders have been told to 'pause' from 1st aug but there doesn't seem to be anything new for pregnant women.

Great news @IlanaWexler. When are you due? Enjoy the extra, paid time off!

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Ouchjuststoodonlego · 13/07/2020 15:40

I was just coming to ask this too.

I have been wfh since March but it seems that I am expected to be teaching in September.
The guidance is so unclear.

BettyBotter1 · 15/07/2020 12:23

@ouchjuststoodonlego I'm in the same position as you.

Ouchjuststoodonlego · 15/07/2020 15:08

@BettyBotter1
Have you been given any advice at all?
I emailed my union and got a load of waffle back.
There is just no clarity on terms of expectation. I would have been happy to go in since March but am concerned about it so close to being due.

BettyBotter1 · 15/07/2020 15:31

@ouchjuststoodonlego I agree the guidance from gov is clear as mud. From my Head's interpretation it's perfectly clear she's allowed to tell me I'm to come in and said she could have had me in all this time. Have been told I'll be teaching from the desk to allow social distancing. I've been told to come in and meet with her face to face to discuss my concerns. I was only planning to do 3 weeks in sep so might just bring maternity leave forwards. I think I'll be close to finding a full teaching load with a difficult class too much by then, especially having not done it since march. With first baby it's so hard to know how big and uncomfortable I'll be by that point.

Ouchjuststoodonlego · 15/07/2020 19:21

I am seeing my midwife in a week or so and am planning on discussing it with her. I don't want my HT to think that I'm being awkward and if it was just my health I would be in there cracking on with the job. .
But it all just seems so backwards.
I wonder who we would contact for clearer guidance.

BettyBotter1 · 15/07/2020 21:07

I don't know. The NEU doesn't seem to have anything particularly helpful.

Ouchjuststoodonlego · 15/07/2020 21:23

This is their reponse to my email asking for clarification..

Thank you for your email yesterday (13th July).

I appreciate that the guidance for pregnant members in September is less clear-cut than for the current term and we are working to clarify and update the website ASAP.

The Joint Union Checklist for September does include some specific points for consideration regarding workers at higher risk but the union position is slightly different than at the height of the pandemic. The NEU advice is that all Clinically Extremely Vulnerable (CEV) staff and those living with someone CEV should be allowed to work from home in September. For staff falling into the broader higher risk/vulnerable group (including pregnant workers) individual risk assessments should be carried out and reviewed at the start of September term taking account of any changes to personal or local circumstances.

We have also asked Public Health England to be specific about their guidance on safety for clinically vulnerable staff, set against the reality of many staff being in rooms of 30 children with little ventilation, with real compromises on social distancing and without PPE.

The DfE guidance is currently that "where schools apply the full measures in this guidance the risks to all staff will be

mitigated significantly, including those who are extremely clinically vulnerable and clinically vulnerable. We expect this will allow most staff to return to the workplace, although we advise those in the most at risk categories to take particular care while community transmission rates continue to fall." On this basis, the NEU position is that vulnerable staff will only be working on-site in September if schools are able to ensure the full measures in the DfE guidance and individual risk assessments deem it appropriate.

It is a tricky balance with regards to staff having appropriate reassurances before finishing for the summer whilst it is so difficult to predict the possible circumstances we may face in September. We all want pupils to return to school and education in September, but it must be a safe return for students, staff and the local community.

Have you had an individual pregnancy risk assessment? If not, then I would strongly advise requesting one and discussing with your school an appropriate time frame to review this for September. It would be reasonable to request that you not be expected to be on-site with children before your individual risk assessment has been reviewed at the start of term. Depending on when your school is due back/whether you have INSET days scheduled etc., you could agree an appropriate time frame for this with your school now so that you have some certainty. We do not have a rep listed for your school, but it may be helpful to discuss this issue with colleagues and raise it collectively - it is highly likely that other colleagues will fall into higher risk groups as well.

Working from home should still be considered as an option for you in September regardless of whether all children have returned - it should be considered as a reasonable adjustment for Health & Safety reasons as addressed in your individual pregnancy risk assessment.

If it is not deemed safe for you to be on-site and it is not possible to make suitable alternative arrangements for your work, then your school should consider the option of medical suspension on full pay. In these circumstances your maternity leave could potentially be triggered four weeks prior to your EDD as medical suspension relating to a Covid-19 risk assessment could meet the criteria for "pregnancy-related" absence in the final four weeks of pregnancy.

If your school assert that it is safe for you to return on-site and you disagree, one option would be for you to speak to your GP and request a "fit note" recommending working from home as a reasonable adjustment.

Please be assured that we will continue to offer our full support to members who wish to raise Health & Safety concerns regarding Covid-19, including requirements of higher risk staff. We will also be issuing further guidance and advice for members before September.

I hope that this information is of some assistance. I appreciate the difficulty of being faced with a degree of ambiguity and uncertainty at this stage. Please do not hesitate to contact us for further support.

In case you are not already aware, there is a reduced subscription rate for members on maternity leave - please contact our membership department on [email protected] to arrange this nearer the time.

Wishing you all the best your pregnancy and birth of your little one.

BettyBotter1 · 15/07/2020 22:15

Thank you for sharing that. I can see that from my school's point of view, telling me to stay at the desk and putting the nearest pupils 2 metres away fulfills the requirement, but from my point of view it still feels risky depending on what the situation is come Sep.

booklover164 · 15/07/2020 22:21

Thanks @Ouchjuststoodonlego that's very helpful. I will also contact them to ensure that I have something to forward to my head. A strange time for everyone..

Sparkles715 · 16/07/2020 17:56

I teach Year 1 and I’ve just found out I’m pregnant. Very early stages. Today was the last day of term and there has been no social distancing with the children in my bubble. What do I do about September?

BettyBotter1 · 16/07/2020 18:03

@Sparkles715 if you're comfortable to let your Head know you're pregnant they would have to write you a risk assessment and I think it would be very difficult to justify having you teach Yr1 with no social distancing. I imagine you might find yourself put with an older year group where you can 'teach from the desk' like has been suggested for me.

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