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Rota for school returning?

42 replies

looloo247 · 16/05/2020 06:59

What has been proposed by your school for 1st June? Our head has said that we will be returning on a 2 day a week basis - half the eligible children and staff on a Monday/Tuesday and half on Thursday/Friday. Seems to work on paper, however latest government guidance says that schools should only offer full time places to eligible children so I'm wondering whether the plans will change.
Has anything been decided by your school yet?

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looloo247 · 16/05/2020 10:58

@SoloMummy we have been allocated to a "bubble" so as to minimise cross contamination between groups of children and adults. As it stands, no staff or children that are in Monday/Tuesday will be in Thursday/Friday, with the exception of key worker children who will be in the own bubble all week. I fully expect it to change before 1st June!

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Ihavechildren · 16/05/2020 11:25

The latest guidance does say no rota but I don't think it would prevent the plan OP's school have where the staff and students are on the same rota. Rotas are to be avoided because they break the "bubble".

To begin with, I don't think any schools will be offering FT so it's not going to help anyone get back to work. There'll be pressure to increase provision but by then we'll be breaking up for summer.

DippyAvocado · 16/05/2020 11:28

How on earth they expect to open up primary schools to all pupils by 22nd June as they mentioned earlier while having 15 to a group and no rotas is beyond me. Shall we magic up double the number of classrooms and staff as we normally have?

CaryStoppins · 16/05/2020 13:29

Key worker children and assigned adults are in 5 days a week.

R/1/6 and teachers are in either a Monday Tuesday or Thursday Friday with Wednesday set aside for cleaning. No home learning set for those years.

No nursery provision as they'd have to be in a bubbles of 8.

GrimmsFairytales · 16/05/2020 13:36

But seriously, if a child soils them self who will I call on 1. to stay with the children I was working with and 2. to accompany me while I change them for safeguarding?

It's a minefield. Sad

WillowB · 16/05/2020 13:57

Infant school. All back full time from June 1st (except Y2). Classes of 15, No assemblies, no PE, staggered start & finish times.
I job share so my 'bubble' will have 2 adults over the week.

CaryStoppins · 16/05/2020 14:00

Do you have enough rooms Willow?

GrimmsFairytales · 16/05/2020 14:08

WillowB

Where are you putting them all?

Grasspigeons · 16/05/2020 14:17

DippyAvocado - i feel (no evidence) that they want to give schools a few weeks where we practice bubbles, keeping classess apart, one way systems and staggering starts, playtimes, delivering meals to classrooms and then they will magically find 30 is the new 15 and its just school as normal, with adjusted routines and less toys and books

skylarkdescending · 16/05/2020 14:26

I agree with @Grasspigeons
It's all too convenient isn't it?

partystress · 16/05/2020 17:34

Lots of heads I know want to have fewer than 15 in a class for safety reasons. They want to split class four ways rather than two for safety of adults and children and all the practical reasons you’ve all mentioned about toileting etc.

Over the week as a whole, if you offer two days to all children, you get a whole class in, but each adult is still only with 14/15 children over the week. Eminently sensible, but seemingly not on the approved list of gradual, small steps, carefully managed yadda yadda DFE approved approaches.

ReceptionTA · 17/05/2020 09:17

And let's not pretend some children won't cry after being at home for weeks with their families. There won't be any social distancing.

Out head hasn't yet officially announced her plan, I think she's still waiting to see what other schools do. One local school has announced a two week rota for children with half of them on all day for a week. Personally I don't think that's the best idea for little ones. As a parent I would rather my infant school child did every morning or every afternoon. It would, I think, work better for secondaries where children have to travel distances.

CaryStoppins · 17/05/2020 10:33

If you had different children in the morning and afternoon you'd have to deep clean everything everyday.

WillowB · 17/05/2020 21:56

@GrimmsFairytales @Carystoppins
We're only 1 form entry. Using the hall, a spare classroom & the Y2 classroom means we can split them into groups of 15.
I have to admit, I'm not comfortable about it - we'll have virtually the whole school back on June 1st!
Still got to set and mark work for those not in school too.

CaryStoppins · 18/05/2020 09:05

And Year 2 are supposed to be back for a month before the holidays so you'll have the whole school back by the end of June.

DippyAvocado · 18/05/2020 09:53

If there is only one adult per group, this is going to lead to issues if there is staff sickness etc. I am supposed to be in on the rota today but one of my DC has a high temperature. According to the guidance I am now supposed to self-isolate for 14 days or get them tested. I've booked a test but the results won't be in for 2-3 days. There was a palaver over just covering me for the rota when plenty of teachers are wfh and should be available. If schools are relying on one adult per group are they just going to tell that group they can't come in if the staff member is unwell or a member of their household has symptoms?

Or probably the government will change their advice and we won't need to isolate if a household member has symptoms because that would be inconvenient for getting people back into work.

SansaSnark · 18/05/2020 13:41

I'm secondary, and we're currently looking at a 1 day a week rota for staff and kids- so the same staff always with the same kids, but minimizing the numbers on transport and in the building. It won't be "teaching" but a sort of support session to help them with any home learning issues they are having, and to chivvy the ones who aren't doing very much at all.

I can see the argument against rota systems where lots of children are see by the same teachers, but I think there is a good argument for having a rota to minimise the number of children and adults in the building at any one time.

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