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Fairness for Part-time staff if everyone is 'part-time'!?

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Theduchessstill · 14/05/2020 08:05

I'm just wondering how you and your schools are dealing with part-time staff if and when schools partially reopen. Our head is working on a plan which would see most teachers in 2 days per week. Do you think part-time staff should have this reduced by the proportion in their contract, do you think they should just do the 2 days as it's an exceptional situation or should they do less but take on a bit more of the stuff that can be done from home?

It's not my decision anyway but I'm caught in the middle and would love to hear how others are approaching this - if anyone's got that far - or what anyone thinks is fair.

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SallyAlly2020 · 14/05/2020 08:11

As a full time member of staff, I would not expect my part time colleagues to be working the same amount of time as me unless there is a shortage of staff and they are willing to make up the difference.

Think it really depends on the culture of the school and the individuals in question.

FloellaDaVille · 14/05/2020 08:13

Presumably you would work your two days and still be off for the rest of the week and full timers would have to send out work to those still at home? I work full time but two days in one school, three days in the other. Have no idea how that's going to work and even if I'll be able to work in both.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 14/05/2020 08:15

Yes I would expect that the FTers would use the other 3 days at home to set online work / welfare checks on families / write reports / start planning September's work etc.

Theduchessstill · 14/05/2020 08:19

Yes, this is where it falls down. If the PT staff do full days in school the same as everyone else, because only one year group is going to be in their other classes will still need work setting so they couldn't do nothing at home. We're not doing live lessons but still setting and marking work and chasing it, as well as long-term planning type stuff.

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WoWsers16 · 14/05/2020 08:27

I'm part time - 3 days - I would expect to do 'less ' than my full time colleagues. I wouldn't expect work to be set that I needed to do on my 2 days off -
At our school (primary) on June 1st all staff are expected to come in and work their normal hours anyway. As if we are splitting up classes into 15 we need everyone in x

MyHipsDontLieUnfortunately · 14/05/2020 08:30

If PTers are still WfH they shouldn't be doing the same number of days in school as FT staff, unless they agreed to be paid the extra I suppose (and that's not going to happen).

Stillpinching · 14/05/2020 08:38

Hmm, not sure but I expect a similar dilemma will come up in my school as we have several part-timers. I do think however it's done they should overall come out having done less than the f/t staff, but working it out is probably going to be nightmare as you may need more staff in than normal to cover the smaller groups.

And sorry, this will make me unpopular, but there are always references to p/t staff not having to work on their days off, and I do agree. But...I and all my f/t colleagues always ending up working weekends and evenings - isn't that just the equivalent of p/t staff ending up doing some work on their day at home? It's just teaching isn't it - and shit and we should do something about it, but it's not just unfair to the p/t.

But in answer to your question their overall workload should be in proportion to what they normally do.

mrslol · 14/05/2020 08:53

I'm primary so it would be slightly different but I guess you would work it out by hours. I'm 3 days a week so paid 21 hours a week so if I were in school 2 days that would be 14 hours (obvs that hours paid so that would be planning and prep too not contact time) So you'd be left with a max 7 hours you could do at home. I would be going to management and asking how they want those 7 hours used because obviously you can't be providing the same amount of work as FT people who will have 21 hours WFH. I know we always go above and beyond our hours but that would be a lot of working for free. Either they need you to do the work and pay you or they don't want to pay you and they need to find a way for the work to be covered. I've got a really understanding HT so I wouldn't be worried about approaching her but I appreciate it's not always easy,

clareykb · 14/05/2020 09:01

I've been told that in not having a class as I'm 5 afternoons and they want the group's to have the same adult all day so I'm doing 1 afternoon key workers childcare whilst the rest of the school is shut for PPA and 4 PM's running all the ks2 home learning from home for the 50% of kids who aren't coming back in x

SE13Mummy · 14/05/2020 11:28

Those of us that work part-time will be going into school or doing work from home on our working days as usual. None of us have very young children but those of us who work 3/4 days have Y5/6 children of our own so want to be around to offer some support with their school work, go out for walks etc. It may be that we're asked if we can swap days off but our headteacher is happy to be flexible when we need to swap days off anyway so I can't see anyone minding if they're asked to return the favour.

Poetryinaction · 14/05/2020 14:51

I am setting less work as I teach fewer classes. I am in the same amount as full time staff though. I don't really mind. I am probably doing fewer hours than usual for the same pay so I can't complain.

Hibbetyhob · 14/05/2020 15:24

Yes I think it should be done proportionally. Part timers are paid proportionally and therefore should work to those ratios also.

OnlyToWin · 14/05/2020 15:27

Frontline work should be pro rata.
Percentages should be worked out first then rota set up.
E.g. If a FT member of staff is frontline for half of their contracted hours then the same should apply for PT members of staff.

BeingATwatItsABingThing · 14/05/2020 15:35

I’m full time and my partner teachers are part time. They share the role of sorting home learning and additional tasks for their class and I do all of it for mine. As we are the same year group, we are splitting the activities between the three of us which is nice of them.

When they were going into school, they only went on their contracted days to do the care for key worker’s children. Full time staff did a whole week.

After 1st June, they are both going back in but I won’t be because I’m clinically vulnerable. I’ll be organising all home learning for our year group (we’re Y5) but I can’t really be keeping tabs on their class too. I’m not sure how that will work.

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