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Bearnecessity · 08/05/2020 18:09

I am a primary trained teacher with a passion for art wondering about applying for a 0.6 job local to me. I have been out of teaching for 18 months. What are they ups and downs of your jobs....would I be completely ruled out as a primary returner?

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ElizabethMainwaring · 13/05/2020 08:47

Do you have a degree in Art@Bearnecessity
It's a very competitive area. Especially part time.
I'm primary trained and work in a secondary.
I do have a degree in History of Art though, and donkey's years ago I started a secondary art PGCE. I left due to a couple of things. One being that I simply didn't have the skills needed. There were some seriously talented people on the course.

ElizabethMainwaring · 13/05/2020 08:48

@Bearnecessity @Bearnecessity

NeurotrashWarrior · 13/05/2020 12:02

I think you'd have to have a fine art degree or similar. Contact the NSEAD?

ElizabethMainwaring · 13/05/2020 13:44

I didn't mention that I don't teach art. Sorry.
To be perfectly honest, I don't think that you'd stand a chance without a degree or MA in art.
But in the current climate, who knows?Confused

Bearnecessity · 13/05/2020 16:03

Hi, I did do History of Art, photography, film studies on my degree I have 2:1 Hons degree in Communications and Media as well as the PGCE

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NeurotrashWarrior · 13/05/2020 16:17

I'd contact the NSEAD to find out; you'd be wise to join them too if you wish to be a secondary art teacher.

Mikorona · 13/05/2020 18:00

I have a maths degree. I was primary trained and did that for 10 years. Then I made the jump to secondary school two years ago. Needed no other qualifications but obviously you have to reassure them you can teach to GCSE level.

Pros:
-More job satisfaction- the kids can ask me questions that actually make me work my brain!

  • Teenagers have a great sense of humour and it is refreshing after 10 years of years 4-6
-work life balance so much better. Nowhere near the ridiculous marking expectations. That might be school dependent though.

Cons:

  • Teenagers are funny but my God they are grumpy too. I love them but some people would really struggle with the change. They don't want to please you the way primary do. It's a whole different method of behaviour management but I have always been strong with this and have found it fine
  • learning a new curriculum is exhausting.
-I miss the parental involvement. It makes building links with home so hard.
  • schools tend to be so much bigger, as are the teams. I miss the small, friendly environment.

I think I prefer teaching secondary. But I do miss primary.

Bearnecessity · 13/05/2020 18:07

Thanks for everyone, I am going to try but the competition sounds fierce nothing ventured nothing gained.

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Bearnecessity · 13/05/2020 18:08

Skip the for..it would help if I could speak/type correctly.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 13/05/2020 18:51

You can get a feel for it from twitter. If you start to look to see who is secondary teaching art and linked to NSEAD, the big draw, and a few other big art things like arts mark and the local culture bridge orgs, you can find a few teachers who are recording how they work on twitter and engaging in relevant debates etc.

Bearnecessity · 14/05/2020 15:11

Thank you Neurotrash I will. I don't do social media generally...except when I have to...

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