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Supply teachers please can I ask your thoughts?

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EttasEden · 28/04/2020 21:00

Pretty much that. Has anyone been a supply teacher or is a supply teacher? Is the income steady and do you prefer it to teaching full time? Thank you.

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mummillion · 28/04/2020 21:07

I've been a supply teacher as a stepping stone to get back into teaching after an extended maternity leave when I decided i simply couldn't work full time anymore .
It has many pros and cons depending on your circumstances . Can be very difficult to juggle around childcare as it's not reliable, but the flexibility and lack of responsibility ( leave at 3.15, no meetings etc ) was wonderful and it was great to take the odd week off . Work was hit and miss - September really quiet , as was July .
For me the ideal job that came along was part time because that really is the best of both worlds if you really rely on a regular income as i do , but have too many responsibilities to take on full time work ( single mum with children that have SN/ mental health issues )

Neptunesgiraffe · 28/04/2020 21:12

I do supply in a city and there is always a lot of work. Downside is no payment during holidays. Sometimes I have to plan things which I don't mind, but I don't always know what resources the school I'm going to teach at has available for me to use. Also, I never leave at 3.15, more like 5/5:30 after finishing marking, but I do primary school supply. Over time, I've become known to schools and often get asked for by name, which is nice.

superram · 28/04/2020 21:18

I’d imagine there is little work at the minute...... some supply staff are being furloughed by their agency. It’s hit and miss. Some lovely schools and some not

EttasEden · 28/04/2020 21:52

Thank you for the comments I live in greater London. I would be thinking late 2021 to start supply teaching at secondary level. Ideally I would prefer part-time, however I think that will be hard to find.

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monkeysox · 28/04/2020 22:01

Ettas you'd be able to say you are available certain days each week and do day to day supply. I found that was best to start with as you can see what local schools are like and then decide if u want to apply when a part time role becomes available

EttasEden · 29/04/2020 00:30

Thank you. May I ask where you are located and what your day rate is? I've seen figures from 100-260 a day, which is a huge difference.

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LolaSmiles · 29/04/2020 14:33

Is it easier to find a part time role going through supply?

Neptunesgiraffe · 29/04/2020 16:09

I've had plenty of part time jobs and I also work day to day at times. I can specify the days I want to work to fit around kids etc. The only thing with long term work is there is no holiday pay through my agency. Well there is, but it's already added onto the pay I receive. I get a day rate (which is less than a normal teaching day rate for me) and part of that is "holiday pay". So if you work through an agency, youd have to see about negotiating holiday pay. I get better pay at schools where I am employed directly, but again, no holiday pay so it's a daily rate. An appropriate day rate, but no holiday pay.
I know it's different for everyone and this is just how it is for me in a city in the North of england.

BoysRule · 29/04/2020 17:52

I did it for a bit and would do it again, but I don't really enjoy it.

I'm in the South East and got £120 per day - but they take a small percentage for holiday pay (which you obviously get back in the holidays). Then tax and ni on top. I ended up with about £90. I'm on M6 but they pay a flat rate for everyone. If you're at a school for more than 3 months they raise it to your grade.

The plans teachers leave vary massively. Sometimes you get all the resources laid out (which is what I leave for supply teachers). Sometimes you get a vague plan and end up running around trying to get things together.

I'm in primary and I could mostly leave by 3.45 by marking during lunchtime.

monkeysox · 01/05/2020 23:04

I think so lola as if a school know you and rate you there more likely to consider part time.

Howaboutanewname · 02/05/2020 00:11

I resigned a full time job to go on supply at the point when there was too much going on for me personally that something needed to ‘give’. The school I resigned from was unsupportive of my personal situation and I knew as it inevitably got worse, I was risking my long term in the profession as they wouldn’t have hesitated to be difficult with references.

I have never looked back. I know all the local schools and know where I would never consider taking a job (and not what I would have expected). I have worked day to day, and long term from half a term to a full year. I now work 3 days contract in a school I got on well with on supply, one day on a PPA basis on a contract on another school I was introduced to through supply and the 5th day I do day to day work for one of the agencies I worked particularly well with when I supplied full time. I learnt the joy of primary (secondary trained) and that opened up a whole new side to the job that I had never considered.

The downside is that agencies are money making machines and some actively try to do their staff out of money. I am a shortage area subject which I think helps but on long term assignments I quickly learnt to settle for nothing less than pay at M6 equivalent because they pay it, albeit sometimes with reluctance. Day to day can pay very badly as you end up on cover supervisor or HTLA rates although once you are known to both agency and schools, you can start to push that basic rate higher. It’s a game but if you learn to play it you can win.

You need a thick skin and no nonsense attitude. Kids try and play you up but once they realise you didn’t come down with the last fairy shower, it is fine. Arriving early at schools can be helpful as they will say things like ‘maths, science or IT’ and you pick the day you want (always go for IT if on offer! Doddle!), tidying classrooms, speaking with HODs, having a cheery word for reception staff all helps enormously. There are lots of groups to join on Facebook which will give you an idea.

WillowB · 02/05/2020 12:58

I've been on supply since January (primary) both day to day and long term. I've really enjoyed it & its helped me to get my confidence back.
I would say that if you need a steady reliable income to pay a mortgage and bills then really do think carefully unless you have a lot of savings. The work isn't reliable, no pension & look at what has happened with the CV pandemic. Many supply teachers including myself aren't being furloughed & have no income. Others are being paid 80% of minimum wage.
I would also advise you not to work for any agency that uses an umbrella company to pay you. They are a huge scam and you will be left out of pocket.
There are lots of Facebook groups that give really good advice. It might be worth joining a few before you take the plunge.

pinkrocker · 02/05/2020 13:03

What WillowB said. Don't go for any agency that uses umbrella, go for PAYE only. And they'll try and pay you as little as possible, from £90 a day usually. I won't work for that. And if they want me to work in a school 40 minutes drive away I ask for a contribution towards fuel.

LolaSmiles · 02/05/2020 14:25

Agency working sounds a lot of hassle.
I'm sure given there's a shortage of strong teachers schools would have lots of applications for part time posts.

Kathsmum · 06/05/2020 20:56

I’m with CER (capita) and we’ve been furloughed. I love supply mist of the time but you need at least one months money just in case.

Some weeks it’s 5 days others nothing obviously this depends on subject and area.

Smellbellina · 06/05/2020 23:29

Supply is fine, not great not terrible, just fine, because the schools vary so much.
Some leave in-depth plans and behaviour reward charts, some don’t and leave it to you to fill in. If you can do it off the cuff it’s quite fun.
Some are friendly, some aren’t.
My piece of advice would be read what the teacher has left and then ask the TA (if there is one) their advice and give it the respect it deserves.

birdling · 17/05/2020 20:41

I've been doing supply for years. I love it!

SiliconDioxide79 · 28/06/2021 21:52

I left a permanent role in 2018 due to workplace bullying and then in 2020 decided to try supply and really liked it. Got my confidence back and enjoyed the variety. Some classes / schools with poor management are hard but you don’t have to return. Majority of classes behave well when they realise you are interested in making the lesson as decent as it can be. Longer term posts eg long term sick cover can arise which is better money after 12 weeks. A lot better. Worth approaching schools to see if they would set up a supply relationship which doesn’t involve the agency. I think they get £160 ish a day and the supply teacher gets £105 - of which some gets kept back for holiday pay. The agencies make a lot. However doing supply is definitely full of many advantages and freedoms. You can try new ideas and you have to be in the ball and be super positive all the time, which feels good. Def worth a try.

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