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Afterschool and breakfast clubs. What are are the rules?

16 replies

toomanyleggings · 29/01/2020 16:50

How many staff to children?
Food? Do they have a duty to serve healthy food?
Security of the building? What are the rules for this?
I have concerns as you can see

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IamChipmunk · 29/01/2020 19:30

Same ratio as a classroom so 1-30.

Ours doesnt serve especially healthy food, just easy things. Toast and cerial at breakfast
Tea is usually, pasta, pizza, sandwich or something like beans on toast.
Ours has limited facilities for cooking.
They have fruit and biscuits as well.

I would expect security, at ours you have to ring a bell and be let in, kids cant open the door however in the summer most play out in various bits of playground so are not fully watched every moment.

Might be worth looking at the ofsted expectations if you are worried.

Hugepeppapigfan · 01/02/2020 15:26

What are your concerns?

Littlefish · 01/02/2020 22:34

There are very clear guidelines covering what food should be served in school based provision. I'll see if I can find a link,

Littlefish · 01/02/2020 22:39

Look at the last page for food in school, other than lunches.

Digestive28 · 01/02/2020 22:42

Ours is ofsted inspected (assume all are?) and so has a mass of policies, including safeguarding l, associated with it available for anyone to view - that should help with security. But they probably have free reign over healthy food or not

BlueEyedFloozy · 01/02/2020 22:47

School run or privately run?

Our privately run had ratios of 1:8, food should be provided usually toast or cereal if they arrive before 8.30am, after-school is usually a substantial snack - preferably healthy but balanced over the week is acceptable. The building must have a secure entrance/exit and proper registry procedures for children and visitors.

Inspected by the governing body.

drspouse · 03/02/2020 11:55

I believe they only have to be Ofsted inspected if they cater for early years (obviously most will but perhaps not in a Junior or Middle school).

SweetPeaPods · 03/02/2020 11:58

Ours has a locked door with a doorbell and all children get signed in and out.
Food is cereal or toast at breakfast club. Tea is kept light so bagel or crumpet, Cheese toastie etc.

MoltoAgitato · 03/02/2020 12:04

If they are run by the school, they will follow the school’s policy on food etc. Ratios depends on the qualifications of the staff.
If it’s privately run, it may have different rules regarding food. It will then be inspected in its own right. No childcare will be exempt from OFSTED inspection if it wants to accept childcare vouchers, immaterial of the age of children.

drspouse · 03/02/2020 12:24

Oh good point molto, I had forgotten that.

cabbageking · 03/02/2020 13:00

It depends on the setting and what it is named and its purpose.

Study provision, breakfast club, homework club etc that also provide breakfast fall outside Ofsted.

happyhappyme · 03/02/2020 13:20

Ours is ofsted inspected, they were done recently. It's not run by the school.
Breakfast is toast or cereal, they have it in the school hall and come in through the fire exit which can't be opened from the outside. They have three members of staff or two depending on numbers.

The other one I know is run by a TA, they do cereal and toast for breakfast and the ratio is sometimes 1_15 but usually less.

toomanyleggings · 03/02/2020 21:28

Sorry didn't realise that people had replied to this. It's weird the school seem to say it's not run by then but it's advertised on their website and run by ta's. It doesn't seem to ever have been visited by ofsted.
I don't want to say too much but I'm worried about their safeguarding procedures, the building itself, cleanliness... I have raised concerns in the past but I don't want to keep being 'that' parent. I don't know why other parents aren't concerned

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cabbageking · 03/02/2020 23:20

If it is a homework club with breakfast run by school. It doesn't need to be Ofsteded. They will be following the same running rules as school.

I would be asking who any funds are paid to?

LolaSmiles · 04/02/2020 19:56

There's too much missing information to pass comment.

It's fairly common for wraparound care to be on school premises but separate to the school. It also wouldn't be that unusual for a TA to have contracts with both the school and the wraparound provider.

Whether they have to register with ofsted depends on how long they're open for and whether children attend for a certain number of hours.

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