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OFSTED

12 replies

cdtaylornats · 16/12/2019 21:15

Can someone tell me why OFSTED is so much worse than th audits the rest of us professionals go through?

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treenu · 16/12/2019 21:18
Biscuit

Are you being intentionally goody?

Who has said that Ofsted is worse than audits in other sectors?

noblegiraffe · 16/12/2019 21:32

Because in other jobs the rating you get is based on the work you have done, not based on how privileged the sector you serve is.

SquashedFlyBiscuit · 16/12/2019 21:34

Oh so many reasons.

fedup21 · 16/12/2019 21:35

That’s a very interesting postGrin. Can you explain your reason for asking?

cantkeepawayforever · 16/12/2019 21:36

Are your audits also published very publicly, used to rank your organisation compared to others (even though the audits were done at different times under different rules, against criteria which depend on factors outwith the organisations' control such as demographics), and used as a proxy for 'how good your organisation is' FOR THE NEXT 3-5 YEARS? (Or 12, in the case of a school that fluked an Outstanding in 2007)

pinyinchahua · 16/12/2019 21:40

Don’t feed the troll 🙄

MsJaneAusten · 16/12/2019 21:50

Maybe you should tell us a bit more about your audits first. I'd love to hear about them.

Piggywaspushed · 17/12/2019 15:36

Aren't you in Scotland OP??

StainlessSteelCat · 17/12/2019 17:26

OFSTED is not an audit, it's in addition to an audit.
Teachers are measured against targets that other people have to achieve and we cannot sack them/manage them beyond encouragement if they do not want to/cannot work towards those targets.

SansaSnark · 19/12/2019 09:59

Ofsted isn't really an audit- parts of it are, maybe but I think it's more involved than audits I've been through in other sectors. We also have audits in schools, by the way. These are separate to Ofsted.

I don't think I've ever had an audit in another sector where I was held directly responsible for the performance of other people and treated as though I'm the only factor influencing them- when actually there are a huge number of complex factors involved.

TeenPlusTwenties · 20/12/2019 18:20

Not a teacher, but was involved in things like ISO9000 assessments and other area specific ones.
To me the two big differences seem to be:
a) The children. In other organisations your work isn't thrown off because Ryan was wound up by Callum on the way into the class so decides to act up.
b) In other jobs the criteria are relatively fixed and relatively objective. As an outside observer, the Ofsted requirements appear more subjective and more prone to blowing whichever way the head of Ofsted / minister for DoE wants.

BoneyBackJefferson · 20/12/2019 18:24

cdtaylornats

Other than in response to your deliberately goady post, can you point out or link to where any where anyone else has ever said this?

Will you ever return to thread other than to say that teachers just moan and whine?

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