Observations

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What would you think was preferable ? formal termly observations replaced by informal observation weekly with written feedback on how to improve ?

Neither?

Agreed but not an option !

Worth a try

I'd prefer termly with an opportunity to discuss the lesson as part of the feedback process

Informal but more regular I think.
Less pressure. The work that goes into an observation always feels a bit false- you couldn't prep like that all the time.
Or maybe I'm just a bit crap!!

More regular, less formal. Think it's a truer indication to slt of what's happening around school and means crap teachers can't turn it on for a week or so. I can get lazy and this would keep me creative and organised.

Who the fuck has time to do weekly observations with written feedback for actual qualified teachers? It’s a pain in the arse enough going it for trainees.

I’d go for weekly just cos it will never happen.

So if those informal observations were filmed and then shown to the rest of staff to critique ?

😮

Union advice is that you can refuse to be filmed and there should be no pressure on you at all to comply.

Interesting ,thanks for that .

IRIS is the popular system for filming teachers, NASUWT guidance is on the second page here: www.nasuwt.org.uk/uploads/assets/uploaded/238ce9a8-85ed-4c6b-916ed4d3c6bffdfe.pdf

Blimey. If I had weekly filmed observations, however informal, I would be leaving sharpish.

I am starting to think I should be moving on .

My gob is smacked.

I prefer to know when I‘m going to be observed. Drop ins just mean I panic for the whole period that they might be coming.

Videoing would be awful! I’d be out by Christmas and refusing to teach whilst they were in my room with a camera.

Are they genuinely proposing filming observations and showing to all staff? They wouldn't have a leg to stand on. Fine for somebody to agree to be filmed and shown but not at all fine to enforce this on people.

Without outing myself can say definitely issues with permission.

Give the union a ring?

I think both options are against union guidelines. Not that that means anything is done twatyish multi academy trust. Just leave.

I quite like video observations BUT we film them ourselves so no one in the classroom other than the usual teacher and support staff and they are only shared with the people we choose to share them with. We watch them back together and discuss the content. Then the video is deleted.

I've learnt a lot about my own practice but can totally understand why people would be wary of them

Either of those are way above union guidelines: www.teachers.org.uk/edufacts/appraisal

Bloody hell. Termly with notice would be better but unless there are issues with performance then I think this is excessive too. I would not be happy with a weekly observation at all. I would also not accept to be filmed for general critiquing. I think if they suggested this where I worked, I would be job hunting but in the meantime be requesting to sit in and observe some SMT lessons for my own professional development. I am sure the focus on observation might die down then!

But apparently this is to support our wellbeing !

What is their reasoning as to how this will support wellbeing?

They are not doing formal observations .