Not being paid for interview?

[Rainbowsandunicorns85]

Umm - anyone any idea if this is legal or not? Permanent contract and FT.

Rainbowsandunicorns85

Sigh, you can tell who just came in.

In many jobs the employer you are leaving doesn't even find out that you are applying for a new job unless you get the job and put your notice in. This means people take annual leave for interview or come up with some excuse regarding why they are off and, unless they have phoned in sick, in general will be unpaid.

In teaching however the notice period is very long ...at least half a term and a full term in the summer term. As a previous poster said there is a kind of gentleman's agreement. It is expected that you will inform the Head that you are applying for other jobs and it is also expected that you will obtain a reference for your current Head. Not every one does but it looks a bit off if you don't. So the gentleman's agreement is more or less that your Head knows what you are doing before you ever get a new job, which can be embarrassing if you keep getting knocked back. In return for this openness and honesty, which helps with future planning, it is usual that you will be paid for the day of the interview. It's swings and roundabouts. Teachers are not paid hourly and of course don't get paid or expect to get paid extra when running extra lessons or taking responsibility twenty four hours on residential trips ext. Same pay if you loose a day for interview. Same pay if your weeks hours double for various reasons.

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Do not give me a biscuit raven

I posted about a teaching issue in the staff room.

Some of these posts are

In my world you would never be paid to attend an interview elsewhere but I can still see and appreciate that teaching is very different
For a start, I imagine a teacher taking a planned day off still actually does most of the leg-work for the day they are absent, planning lessons etc.

Ask them why this has been made 'a thing' OP. If you politely force them explain themselves it might just make them re-think!

I most certainly did have to provide cover even though I wasn’t paid.

@Rainbowsandunicorns85 how rude and snarky you are. No need to have an attitude or to be passive-aggressive...

I hadn't realised the staffroom was exclusive to teachers? I must have missed the memo. Certainly I've worked many places with a staff room, none of which were teaching establishments?

I think you may need to get off your high horse @Rainbowsandunicorns85

@Bufferingkisses I didn't realise either when it came up on active threads, it's a sub section under education but you wouldn't actually know that if you don't look

@bufferingkisses, The Staffroom is a board within the education section of Mumsnet. So I think it's clearly for teachers. I wouldn't say it's exclusive, but I think people at least need to have an awareness that it will be teachers' employment issues that are being discussed, so perhaps not jump straight in if that's not an area they know something about.

Agreed The Staffroom needs a better name. It's not clear that it's about teachers.

It’s beyond frustrating when you get a flaming from people who (with the greatest of respect) don’t know what they are talking about.

Of course you should be paid. You’ve planned and prepared for the day, left work to do. That’s several hours work!

Several hours’ work.

It's something that can be done, but it isn't compulsory for the Head to agree to pay you for it.

Very few support staff get paid time off for interviews - or permission, half the time. If the budget is looking pretty dodgy, that's one reason, particularly with the cost of hiring supply (and dealing with the resultant discipline issues as soon as the class gets a sniff of this being a cover lesson), but sometimes it is simply because They Don't Want To.

When it comes up on active feed it just says The Staffroom - not as a subsection of anything so it's not massively clear it's just for teachers.

Now I know more about teacher recruitment the more it sounds like OP is being dealt a rough hand.

I agree that it just comes as The Staffroom on the active feed so I would have no idea it was in the Education section. Could be any staffroom anywhere

Not sure if you’re primary or secondary, but I am am primary. When I get a new job I go and visit my school to meet my new class on the induction afternoon. Would your school expect that to be unpaid too? Or would the new school have to offer to cover the costs. It is all wrong on so many levels. I hate not being able to put in a speculative application, it makes it all so official when you have to tell your boss you are looking elsewhere.

Somehow the staff room has been used for years with a mutual understanding it’s tbe part of Mumsnet for teachers and obviously people who aren’t teachers ask advice and so on but I wouldn’t go into adoption or fostering or living overseas and start as if I knew what I was talking about!

It's been explained above that on active threads it doesnt show which board it is - lovely attitude though

I'm a teacher. Am I allowed to be here?
Your post made little sense as you provided little information that other posters rightly asked for clarification about. I was going to answer properly but your answers to other posters have been unnecessarily snotty so I won't bother. People asked for clarification as they were trying to help.

But you do check on other boards presumably - you don’t start talking about adopting a dog if someone is talking about adopting a baby. If you feel my attitude is off then report to Mumsnet. It isn’t. I think it’s very rude to come in and flame someone with no idea what you’re talking about.

I'm a teacher and I thought it made perfect sense!

Wow... trying to ignore the attitude... FYI, we don't get paid if we attend interviews elsewhere. It's unpaid leave at my school. Check with your LEA, it's different in each.