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Being forced to step down

70 replies

someteacher · 03/05/2019 17:26

I hold a considerable TLR and am having to relinquish it. I wondered if anybody knew anything about this. It's going to put my family into a great deal of difficulty, to the point where it's barely worth me doing the job at all.

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TreadingThePrimrosePath · 06/05/2019 12:45

So, you hate it, you don’t want to stay, you can’t afford to lose the extra money, you are being asked to resign the role or be forced out with the negative mark of going through competency proceedings, you are not in a union.
Logically, you should resign the role, stay as a teacher and plan your escape. Spin why you dropped the role of your own free will. Collect evidence of being an excellent teacher and build a great cv/portfolio.
The chances of you leaving and obtaining another TLR in a different school at the moment are minimal as you can’t show proof you can do the job exceedingly well against other candidates.
I don’t understand what answer you are hoping for?

someteacher · 06/05/2019 12:55

With encouraging words like that no further advice is needed Smile

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Piggywaspushed · 06/05/2019 13:10

I feel your pain . Union issues aside (and yes, they weren't much help but I still know they have me on file at least) my situation is very similar to yours and it is very distressing.
I offer sympathy. I can also see why you can't just get out ( I will add I have been trying to do this for 14 years!) and why you can't just give up household income.
It's a form of bullying and it is common in teaching.

Piggywaspushed · 06/05/2019 13:12

ps lovely HR people on Employment Issues board and they have a'no being nasty' rule, Maybe pop over there?

Piggywaspushed · 06/05/2019 13:17

Do they have someone else to magically step up to do your TLR, given you have said you have no other post holders in your dept.

You've posted before : I recognise you ; you hate your new school. It doesn't sound a nice place to work. It does sound tough.

Going against the grain, I don't think 5 frees a week is that many , assuming you are eg a head of English. Standard teachers in my place get 4 frees a week/ 7 a fortnight.

TreadingThePrimrosePath · 06/05/2019 13:23

Not being nasty, just logical. Confused
Teaching has always been similar to the feudal system, with the king and the barons ruling over the little peasants. As OP is a member of SLT, she knows that full well. Much of the role of SLT is setting goals and hoops for others to jump through, and judging when they have failed. Putting procedures in place to sort out the problem, one way or another.
The school have all the power here, if they judge her incompetent, it’s very hard to disprove that. They write and interpret the criteria, and have very specific ideas about what they want in their school.
So, if OP refuses to give up her TLR, the likelihood is that they will force her, win and perhaps break her in the process. They may refuse a decent reference, or bad-mouth her in the locality to other heads.
My solution was not perfect, but may leave her mental health and career relatively intact.

someteacher · 06/05/2019 13:41

Thanks piggy. That does mean a lot.

They'd combine the job between me and SLT (we have quite a top heavy SLT.)

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Piggywaspushed · 06/05/2019 13:44

Wow, so they'd take their TLR off you but still get you to do some of the work??

Piggywaspushed · 06/05/2019 13:46

Not sure where it says OP is SLT??

TreadingThePrimrosePath · 06/05/2019 14:02

Ah. I assumed, being head of a core subject with a considerable TLR that she would be. Shouldn’t assume!

someteacher · 06/05/2019 14:04

Not on SLT

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Piggywaspushed · 06/05/2019 14:19

God, no, doesn't equate to SLT in many schools : can't maintain the them and us that way. SLT would also be leadership spine , rather than TLR.

likeafishneedsabike · 06/05/2019 16:56

I seem to get the impression that you teach a core subject, although that might be an assumption by other posters. If so, you might be able to make up the lost TLR money in tutoring. That is, if you choose to relinquish the TLR and keep on as s teacher.

likeafishneedsabike · 06/05/2019 16:57

Meant to say that you’re obviously going through a bad time and sorry that things are a bit crap Sad

someteacher · 06/05/2019 17:13

Even so it's got much longer term career implications - it's not just about the money.

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Jaffapaffa · 06/05/2019 17:39

Yes, it does have long term implications- but the immediate pressure and endless stress will end.

DippyAvocado · 06/05/2019 17:45

Do you think the expectations of what you are asked to do are unrealistic? Is it more than when you were doing the same job in a different school? There is a big difference between not getting the job done because of your own lack of skills and not getting it done because you are expected to do too much.

Did you have a support plan out in place which they met with you regularly about?

someteacher · 06/05/2019 17:55

No support plan.

I do think a lot of it is unrealistic to be honest, yes.

When I was HOD in a previous existence I didn't have a form (and in any case the form tutor role wasn't quite as demanding when I've done it in previous schools.) I also was able to delegate some tasks to post-holders or we'd all muck in together to get something done.

That's not to say I'm perfect: I do think there are things I could have done better but I also think they would have been better in time if you see what I mean.

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DippyAvocado · 06/05/2019 18:40

I know you are adamant about the Union but it really is the union's job to be helping you with whether or not the school are being reasonable. I am primary so can't speculate on whether what you're being expected to do is standard for your salary.

As far as I am aware, there are steps the school should take before going down a formal competency/capability route. Have you seen their policy? When were you first made aware that there was a problem?

Piggywaspushed · 06/05/2019 18:42

Have you even had your PM this year?

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