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How much ppa in independent?

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user109842 · 28/06/2018 20:12

I've worked in independents for years (I vow never to go back to state but that's a whole other thread). I've always got 20% if the timetable as ppa. This isn't usually as one full day but spread through the week so about 2hours a day. A friend of mine gets 25% - I feel short changed! Does anyone know what is standard for private schools?

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BackforGood · 28/06/2018 21:20

10%, same as state school for both my friends who work in private schools.

Grammarist · 28/06/2018 22:12

Meant to be the same as state.
From experience, it's often less. Often not protected as as many private schools don't recognise unions (Cognita schools in particular), staff don't have much to help/protect them and their ppa.

physicskate · 28/06/2018 22:17

23% in one. 10% in the other if I wasn't called for cover. Out of a possible 30 lessons per week (so 27 hours timetabled). It was ridiculous.

As it says on the tin: independent.

teaandbiscuitsforme · 28/06/2018 23:09

Surely the whole point of independents is that there is no 'standard'?

At mine, teachers got 15-20% as they felt they had to offer some incentive for the much longer teaching day.

user109842 · 29/06/2018 08:19

What is your school day though? Ours is 8.30-3.15. I know some go to 4pm +

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physicskate · 29/06/2018 08:26

First one: 8:30 - 5:30 (plus Saturday morning). Second one: 8:25 - 4:00.

teaandbiscuitsforme · 29/06/2018 10:11

Teaching is 8:15-4 then an hour of club/prep/staff meeting etc.

20% on 8:30-3:15 sounds pretty reasonable. I think your friend is just extremely lucky.

tomhazard · 29/06/2018 19:38

20% - secondary. But it is not protected in any way so can be called for cover and often are.

In the Juniors they don't have set ppa- they rely on specialist staff like languages and music to provide that time but in practise they often don't get it because there are lots of things going on or the specialist staff can't come for some reason. they are not very happy with this. I don't think there is really a norm

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