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Do you mind being 'Miss'? Is there an workable alternative?

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PinguDance · 01/08/2017 15:28

I'll be working in a school as of September for the first time in a while - I remarked to a friend that I was looking forward to being 'Miss' again and he wondered if it bothered me to be called 'Miss', especially given that male teachers are often referred to as 'Sir', so there's quite a status discrepancy!
As it is it doesn't bother me at all, even though outside school I am firmly 'Ms'; mainly as Ms or Mrs, or Mr for men is quite hard to say by itself (relatively). Also it's just such a part of school life that it seems futile to think about it.
But it did make me wonder if other teachers are annoyed by it or if other schools have found an alternative. What could you be instead?

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BizzyFizzy · 01/08/2017 22:59

I've never been called miss. Apart from the one school where I was ma'am, it has always been Mrs BIzzy.

MargotsDevil · 01/08/2017 23:05

It's a mark of respect from our kids. Miss and Sir are reserved for the teachers who they respect - there are a few teachers who are always referred to formally by the appropriate title then surname. Weird! TBH I don't mind, better Miss than mum!

OneOfTheGrundys · 01/08/2017 23:07

First names at our PRU.

angelcake20 · 01/08/2017 23:55

I was really surprised by the "Miss" when I started working in a school last year. At my traditional grammar school teachers were called by their names, as they are at both DC's independents. As a 40 something I found it rather odd but I have got used to hearing it from the students. I do find that it means that many of them don't actually know their teachers' names, let alone those of other staff members. I have however never got used to being routinely referred to as "Miss" by other members of staff. I have a name and would rather it were used.

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 02/08/2017 11:25

Mrs X on books and in emails; miss in the classroom. As MargotsDevil says, our kids use it with a sense of affection - it denotes respect and a good working relationship rather than the opposite.

showergel1 · 02/08/2017 11:30

Don't mind Miss from the children but get very annoyed when I am referred to as Miss X rather than Mrs X in school correspondence. Particularly as they have my marriage certificate on record.

SpeakOutMum · 02/08/2017 11:51

Always title and last name used at our independent eg Mrs SpeakOutMum or Miss PinguDance. No use of Ms requested so far to my knowledge ever and I get the idea some would frown on it even in this day and age. Male staff can be addressed either as Mr Lastname or as Sir but no equivalent of Sir is used for female staff. No use of Miss alone except by pupils who have just joined from the state sector. I don't think it matters personally as long as something is used in a respectful way.

Alexandrite · 02/08/2017 14:05

We used the teachers' names at my grammar but not in the same way Miss/Sir is used at dcs' comp. ie. We just replied "Yes" not "Yes Mrs X." At home, when talking about a teacher dc will say "Miss said so and so," but it's usually when it's already been established who they are talking about. I have sometimes noticed at parents' info evenings the teachers tell the parents to go and collect a form from "Sir!"

SnickersWasAHorse · 02/08/2017 14:12

Mine know I'm Mrs Snickers but I get Miss in informal sentences, 'miss, he won't share with me', for example.

I don't mind, saying Mrs Snickers is long and I prefer it to being tapped!
I also get Mum, Nan and sometimes Dad.

MiaowTheCat · 02/08/2017 14:17

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FaceOnOff · 02/08/2017 18:18

I'd prefer they call me 'Ms FaceOnOff', but I don't mind 'Miss'.

I don't like 'Miiiiiiiiiiss!'.

MrsGuyOfGisbo · 02/08/2017 20:18

In our school there is no 'Miss' or 'Sir', it is Mrs Gisbourne, Mr Smith, Dr Brown etc.

BackforGood · 02/08/2017 21:01

I hate it. Think it is incredibly rude and would never answer to it.
I have a name and I expect the dc to use it, the same as I use their name. I don't go around saying 'child' or 'pupil', I do my utmost to learn all of their names (a darn sight more than they have to learn).

RogerLimasOldestDreadlock · 02/08/2017 21:38

I've always been uneasy with being "Miss" but accepted it as part of the whole frustrating system. These days I think of it much as being called "mum" at home.

I quite like when my last name is bellowed across the school in greeting. I'd happily be called solely by my last name all day. Or my first name.

I once taught a student from Dubai (diversity is low here!) who called me "teacher", which I quite liked. But as BackForGood says it's a bit like calling a student "child".

I can imagine I'll be 'spoken to' if I go ahead and invite students to address me as I wish. Hmm

MaisyPops · 02/08/2017 21:48

My students know I'm Mrs Maisy.
In general conversation I'm more than happy for students to say 'miss can you help me please?'.

Equally, staff in my school address each other as mr/mrs/miss last name and miss/sir in front of students too.

poisonedbypen · 02/08/2017 21:50

We never had Miss or Sir, always full names. I didn't know it was a thing until my DCs did it. DD went to a school where is was Ma'am (to rhyme with ham) & Sir. Caused her a few embarrassing moment when she moved schools.

ThisIsNotARealAvo · 02/08/2017 21:57

We can choose at my school whether to go by Miss/Mrs/Mr whoever or first names, but more people go for the title and surname option. I use my first name and find children use my name a lot more than they did in my last school where there were no first names and the kids called everyone Miss. even men sometimes. "Miss said I should come to your classroom." "Miss who?" "Mr Smith".

Refilona · 02/08/2017 21:59

I get Dr Refilona mainly but during lessons there's the occasional "miss". I'm also married and most of the kids know this. It's just what they call any female member of staff for simplicity. It doesn't bother me, but if a kid is being a nightmare and a smart arse I demand to be called Dr Refilona just to annoy them Halo

PinguDance · 03/08/2017 14:48

Thanks for your replies! It's interesting that 'Teacher' is the obvious, gender neutral, professional title to use but isn't very common. Also, like PPs I don't like it - though I couldn't exactly say why. (Wouldn't apply to me either as I'm actually going to be a TA. ('Assistant!' would be terrible.) I taught some Japanese students for a while who all called me Teacher San though - that was quite nice, though does basically mean Mrs Teacher. Think in my ideal school pupils would just use my first name but like @RogerLimasOldestDreadlock it's the fact that schools are (ironically - given how individualised teaching has to be) not very good at accepting differences amongst staff preferences that frustrates me - like if I hated being called Ma'am why couldn't kids call me Miss? Ah well. Like others I don't mind in practice but I guess I would prefer it if the school was a Ms./Mrs./Mr. Surname sort of school. When I went for the interview I noticed that the staff referred to teachers in the abstract as 'a miss'. As in, (to kids)a Miss will be along in a minute, you can ask a Miss to help you etc. It's a girls school with a lot of female staff but still!

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SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 03/08/2017 14:55

I think it's awful. I worked in a school for a while and I hated it. If the pupils can't be expected to learn the names of the people who teach them, it's a bit of a poor lookout. And if Miss and Sir are marks of respect, why does one of them so obviously connote vastly more respect than the other?

pieceofpurplesky · 03/08/2017 15:03

It's just a title. I don't mind Miss at all. The kids know my name - just Miss is easier than Ms Purple.

My mum loves it if we see some of the pupils and hears them call me miss. She's 76 and says it makes her proud that I am a teacher.

GutterStar · 03/08/2017 15:58

I teach in an independent prep school and all staff are Miss/Mrs/Mr/Canon Lastname. Absolutely no "Miss!" allowed!
I do get the occasional "Mum", though!

Alexandrite · 03/08/2017 16:25

Absolutely no "Miss!" allowed!
Probably because they don't want the children to sound like they go to a comprehensive. Wink

LindyHemming · 03/08/2017 19:07

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Littlewhistle · 03/08/2017 21:17

Never been called Miss and male colleagues never referred to as Sir. T

My pupils would address me as Mrs Whistle.