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"Don't Worry About the SEN"

33 replies

inclusivemyarse · 22/09/2016 18:37

I'm winded.

Directive from HT is to focus efforts on the children who are capable of achieving the expected levels for the end of their year and not focus on those with SEN.

Feel done in. Want to support all children equally. This isn't inclusion. Christ, I fell into education because of a passion for SN. Now this shit. It's fucking OFSTED.

Gutted tonight. Disillusioned.

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GCHQMonitoring · 23/09/2016 12:37

Sadly I dont think this is anything new. DS2 (20) has SEN, I spent the whole of his education fighting for his needs to be met. It didn't matter that he couldn't write in year 2, as he could learn by listening!

I work in FE, the number of students we have coming through who were in bottom bands, with stories of being left to do colouring in during maths lessons, umpteen numbers of supply/irregular teachers is shocking. The one commonality with all the students is they believe they are thick, can't do abc. We spend more of the time trying to instill that they can do stuff, have the ability, than we spend teaching the material.

Kindlygreen · 23/09/2016 12:45

GCHQ, although your post is sad I'm glad to hear that there is support for these students somewhere along the line.

GCHQMonitoring · 23/09/2016 13:40

Thing is at 16/17 the damage has already been done. Not helped by the government focus on GCSÈ C grades, being the grade to attain. Approx 50% of students get A*-C in maths, GCSE's are graded to F, so though students have obtained a GCSE in a topic they see themselves as failures because they don't have a C.

FE doesn't help because very often students aren't allowed to retake GCSE unless they have a D, some places will take those with E grades, but not many. Students are put into functional skills, which for most, is another indicator they are failures.

The whole system is a mess

slkk · 23/09/2016 15:41

Also. As a parent of a child with SEN, the new reporting systems just show he is 'emerging' that is below expected level. So he could make no progress or go backwards and I wouldn't know it as he will always be emerging.

ATruthUniversallyAcknowledged · 23/09/2016 21:16

Are you sure that's what he meant?

At our school "don't worry about the SEN" would mean "because you're already all doing bloody well to support them"

Our focus this year is the highest ability, not because they make our results look good (they dont), but because they are the only 'subgroup' not making excellent progress at the moment.

glynis123 · 24/09/2016 12:47

Below is a post I put up on my FB page. I still feel very angry about this, but having read the comments in this thread, I now understand why it is happening:

The most useful piece of advice I was ever given as a Special Educational Needs Coordinator was to consider any situation which arose from the point of view of the child concerned. This has been on my mind over the last few days when I’ve been speaking to children with learning difficulties and professionals who support them in class.
In the UK, children have now been back at school for at least a week and many of those who are at primary school spent their first few days after the long summer break being assessed. For children in the higher end of the age group, in what we call Key Stage 2, this takes the form of written tests.
From the point of view of their teachers, meeting a new class who have just spent six weeks away from school, this makes sense. They are under enormous pressure in our data driven system to demonstrate that each child makes progress whilst under their care and they want to have a baseline which they feel they can trust, rather than relying upon the data generated at the end of the summer term.
Whilst, in a saner world, we might question what it feels like for a child to be met with a week of formal testing when they are just getting used to a new teacher and being back at school again, we could also argue that this practise will help children get used to being tested, which is after all very much part of our education system.
However, let us hope that any child who is insecure or anxious (maybe home life is a bit chaotic and the long holiday wasn’t much fun -just one possibility) – let us hope that those children did not find a week of tests too challenging and were able to demonstrate their ability.
Then again, when we contemplate a typical class of thirty children, especially, but not solely, in inner city schools, there will be among them some children who have learning disabilities of one kind and another. So what is it like for them? A child with Dyslexia, ADHD, ADD or any type of sensory processing disorder has to work much harder than a neurotypical child, just to be in school and to try to do what is required of them. Returning to school after the break might conceivably be more stressful for such children, so why would anyone add to that stress by putting them through a week of formal assessment?
So, again in a saner world, we might imagine that these children with learning difficulties of one kind or another, would be given assessment tests which were set at an appropriate level for them. It is by no means uncommon, for example, for a child in a Year 5 class to be operating around the level expected of a child in Year 2. Clearly, common sense would suggest, wouldn’t it, that said child would be given Year 2 assessment tests?
Sadly, outrageously, our world is not so sane. It is common practise in many schools (not all, thank goodness), that the children are all given the tests relevant to their age, regardless of academic ability, special educational need or, indeed, level of spoken and written English, for children new to this country.
So a child who is working well below ‘Age Related Expectations’ and who already finds the classroom environment challenging due to their learning difficulties, has to sit through a week of being faced with tests that they do not understand, whilst sitting surrounded by most of their peers who appear to be able to do them. What impact might this experience have on their stress levels and general self esteem and consequently on their future learning?
I wonder what it feels like to be that child in that situation...................
Glynis Roberts
isyourchilddyslexic.com/course/

Msqueen33 · 24/09/2016 12:57

This is disgusting!!!! I have two with Sen and one is at school. DC does have a ft 1:1 but I'm disgusted by this and the thought DC will be left floundering and upset though I trust the LSAs this is incredibly worrying.

QuackDuckQuack · 24/09/2016 13:06

This is so much like the GCSE focus on C/D borderline candidates.

But I don't think it will actually be the approach of many schools because of the importance of tracking the progress of all pupils and analysing them in different categories. One of those groups should be children with SEN. OFSTED should be looking for that tracking and would be asking questions if it showed poorer progress for them than other groups of children.

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