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Whether you're a permanent teacher, supply teacher or student teacher, you'll find others in the same situation on our Staffroom forum.

Those "educationalist" superstar teachers

145 replies

ElizabethHoover · 06/04/2015 08:25

The ones who have whooping twitter accounts called toolbox guru or whatever.

Are they wankers to work with? Please say yes. They get my goat online. Even during the holidays posting away about how they mark with an iPad app only readable by goats. The kids all write feedback in hieroglyphics etc. also def don't say their teachers. Are educationalists. Go to teach meets all the frickin time.

I hate em Grin

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suze28 · 07/04/2015 22:34

Ok, I'll go with your explanation. Maybe that WAS what I intended Grin

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 07/04/2015 22:37

:)

KinkyDorito · 08/04/2015 11:09

they are all SLT so don't teach.

Sums it up IME.

KinkyDorito · 08/04/2015 11:16

Wading through a pile of work that took 3 trips to get into the car last Thursday. Creative for me is trying to devise ways of getting it out in 2.

That is as good as it gets.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 08/04/2015 11:21

I'm SLT and I teach A LOT! :)

SuffolkNWhat · 08/04/2015 11:29

Educationalist just reminds me of Rob Steadman from the bad old days of TES!

Geoff B is fab I taught one of his sons

noblegiraffe · 08/04/2015 11:37

Bloody hell Rob Steadman there's a name I've not heard in years.

KinkyDorito · 08/04/2015 12:55

As I said Remus, SLT in my experience don't teach much at all. I think managing to deliver whizzy lessons in the way that we are being trained requires you to have an amount of time to give to that. The SLT super-teachers who I have come across are all on minimal hours and therefore can put a heck of a lot of time into their planning to meet such ridiculous standards. For example, a recent work scrutiny put loads of SLT in the 'outsanding' category, but I'm not sure how hard that is to achieve when barely teaching. Some don't teach at all. It's much harder for a mainscale teacher on a 22 hour teaching timetable to pull off all of these initiatives. I would be much more impressed with 'guru' teachers online who were working a full teaching timetable and finding time to devise lots of creative lessons, not those who barely do 5 hours a week in the classroom and seem to have the time to pull off a whole consultancy role outside of school.

KinkyDorito · 08/04/2015 12:56

outstanding even

kesstrel · 08/04/2015 13:06

Kinkydorito, I like blogs that question the need for lessons to be "whizzy" or "creative". People like David Didau or Greg Ashman: www.learningspy.co.uk/
gregashman.wordpress.com/

KinkyDorito · 08/04/2015 13:30

Thanks kesstrel. I like David Didau - I have his Ofsted lesson book.

I will have a look at Greg Ashman.

The biggest issue we seem to have at the moment is the depth of marking that SLT want to see and the detailed response, as someone said up thread, the 'DIRT' time and the purple pens. I could do with some solutions to make that incredibly effective with minimal input from me! Every time I think I've cracked it, the bar shifts and they want to see more. It takes me hours and hours and my KS3 classes aren't that big (KS4 and 5 take far more time) - I feel for the poor sods with several 30+ ones. It is a school policy that Ofsted apparently don't want to see, but as it's part of our improvement plan they actively looked for it in our recent inspection. School is doing brilliantly and I love it there, but lord it is very hard work in terms of expectations on teachers and volume of work.

ElizabethHoover · 08/04/2015 15:56

IME slt barely teach too. Then moan about marking TWO sets of books. THEse are never marked ontime

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ElizabethHoover · 08/04/2015 15:57

we had ofsted the other week.All they wanted to see was where, in the ex books, we told them to do something and they did it. their words

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tartiflette · 08/04/2015 18:52

Echt that's a very interesting article on Hattie.

TheReluctantCountess · 09/04/2015 14:28

Is anybody interested in getting a teacher penpal? If you're a member of Staffrm, have a look at the article on there, which has all the details, or check out twitter #Teacherpenpals which has a link to t he Staffrm details.

TeacherToolkit · 14/04/2015 23:09

Hi all! Came across this MumsNet forum. In response to various comments above:
Reflectng online and sharing what work we are doing/what we are learning is powerful for improving ourselves, as well as some others who may read our thoughts.
It's great to see so many other teachers new to blogging, doing this on @staffrm. Blogging and tweeting has opened up so many doors and friendships with colleagues, I'd 100% recommend it. And in reality, not everything is hunky-dory as many blogs and tweets suggest. The downside is the time-commitment; but I, for example, now see blogging as a love of writing/hobby. It has improved my own literacy significantly over the last few years.
Note, most - not all - of work-related holiday tweets / blogs are automated whilst I take time out to relax. Easy to do with voice dictation and certain software.
I'd recommended a personal Twitter account to separate professional. Much more relaxed stuff going on over on that channel.

I've worked with @headguruteacher and I can honestly say, I'd jump at the chance to work with him tomorrow!

John Tomsett is also a gentlemen. He's a headteacher I'd like to work for!
P.s. I hate the title of my 100 ideas book. Delighted I was asked to, but knew the downsides of sharing to a wider audience. Being ask to write was a direct outcome of blogging.
Regarding 'Outstanding', you'll be pleased to know a few of us pushed Ofsted to stop grading lessons in Feb 2014. I introduced this immediately at my new school Sep 2014. Teachers are much happier in their classrooms and see observations as developmental. Only 25% + of schools are. Ow doing this!! However, everything is far from perfect as we all know, teaching is incredibly hard and workload makes personal development, sadly, always a back burner.

As a new deputy headteacher, I don't teach as much as I'd like to. That's the one negative about leadership. I love teaching and this is the key thing I miss the most. My lessons are far from perfect and I make sure I tell my staff this, and that we should also expect the same from them day to day. It is impossible to teach great lessons day in day out. We try, but it is not a realistic expectation, even for long-toothed souls like me too.

There is no such thing as an educational superstar. It's just a illusion. We are all as good as each other, only with different stories to tell and different students to teach.

Best wishes.

TeacherToolkit · 14/04/2015 23:15

#PPPB is here: teachertoolkit.me/2011/11/04/pose-pause-bounce-pounce/ Thanks

phlebasconsidered · 15/04/2015 21:57

Not only are they tweeting, planning, doing fab displays, correcting comma splices with a natty jingle the kids "just learn" and meeting with OFSTED to persuade them to leave us alone, but they also browse Mumsnet.

I'm going to bed. Clearly, I need to automate a professional Twitter account to send in my lessons tommorrow and have a lie down.

And to a previous poster, no, there really are not very many Primary examples. They're all too busy marking everything in 6 different colours and sticking in pictures of the kids doing something to pages with the LI already stuck in for them before printing out tommorrow's LI and differentiating it 18 ways. Any primary teacher who stuck their head above the parapet and actually pretended to be loving it fine and smilingly would, rightly, be laughed at and their Twitter account bombed with furious riposts.

AsBrightAsAJewel · 15/04/2015 22:24

They're all too busy marking everything in 6 different colours and sticking in pictures of the kids doing something to pages with the LI already stuck in for them before printing out tomorrow's LI and differentiating it 18 ways. Just what I should be doing now instead on MN-ing!

Any primary teacher who stuck their head above the parapet and actually pretended to be loving it fine and smilingly would, rightly, be laughed at and their Twitter account bombed with furious riposts. Grin

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