PR Disasters Chapter 14

[Recklessismymiddlename]

Continuing the baton on from @Atlusvue

As we've all said many times, she wants the end product only - the reputation of greatness, the fame, the accolades, the beloved status, not the work that goes into getting there. It's a form of the worst type of greed combined with lack of talent and laziness. Rather than build a legacy for herself from her own, original ideas, just appropriate someone else's that she covets, and stick a trade mark on it so nobody else can copy her copying. Then send her flying monkeys out to tell everyone she thought of it first or the other person doesn't "own" it. The most hilarious was on these very pages, with one of her semi-regular defenders insisting "Lillibet" is a common name!

I think her "invest in me" comment is somehow meant to make us believe that, all these years she's been selflessly using her own money to invest in a couple of lame female led businesses, and a few minor charities for women and girls, so she's fully justified in merching her royal status. I saw this as a shift to them not even pretending to honour the Sandringham agreement. She's done the, "Service is universal, fuck off Queeny, I can do this better than you" part, now on to the full commercial enterprise of selling her "royal" self (and her royal children) to anyone willing to buy.

Coming back to this: agree fully.

We also do know that what Harry says about being told about the Queen Mother's death is simply untrue: there is historical evidence to prove that.

We won't have any evidence one way or the other for these conversations, but if we ever did I would believe the other side.

I wonder if Moehringer would agree to ghostwrite Meghan's book?

Or would she prefer to write it herself?

I do agree with you @Indianrollerbird . Eg The Lillibet name I think has been debunked in that H claimed he asked HLMTQ before and she said yes. The BBC said that wasn't true and H&M didn't come back on that. I'm prepared to believe H may have said we'd like to name her after you , implying or saying Elizabeth. It seems clear Lillibet wasn't the ask.
I do agree she wants to be where she wants to be without putting in the hard yards. Initially I think she thought the titles would get them all that ( & to be fair when you are being offered $100m / and $20m here and there for books or podcasts , it must have felt like it ) But at some point it must have dawned on them what people were paying for was largely RF gossip, and without it they didn't have the talent or indeed increasingly the likeability to build on that.

How they come back from that I don't know. Maybe some of the film ideas in production will work - the army one by a popular author might be better. It might be salutary ( if H has any idea of coming back as a public member of the RF) to look at the missteps Edward and Sophie made early doors , and how very long it has taken them to come back from that. I don't think either H or M have the patience, amongst other things.

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From everything that's come out in the Bower book, I think Moehringer had an absolute nightmare with Harry and wouldn't go near this pair again in his lifetime!

It is great isn't it?

I love to imagine the whole chain of events from someone writing a quick snark on Twitter to Her Temu-ness in person communicating with the Daily Express and an actual article bring printed.

I mean did she really speak to a journalist or email them? Then come out with some pompous waffle that sounds vaguely like a legal threat?

And then presumably have a herbal infusion, a brick scone and muse on her learnings in that awful kitchen with Harry.

Then send her flying monkeys out to tell everyone she thought of it first or the other person doesn't "own" it. The most hilarious was on these very pages, with one of her semi-regular defenders insisting "Lillibet" is a common name!

The other brilliant one online (not saying that I think M had anything to do with this one) was when her fans said that Mary Berry was copying Meghan's Victoria sponge!

Well, Meghan can do everything better than everyone else. So I think it's a strong possibility that she would assume her talents would stretch to writing her own fabulous book.

In fact it would hardly surprise me if she offered to ghostwrite a book for Moehringer. Probably in calligraphy.

By the way, did anyone ever read that 2024 book about M being misunderstood?

It is titled Meghan Misunderstood by Sean Smith, with the blurb 'Meghan Misunderstood is a pioneering book that sets the record straight on the most talked about, unfairly vilified and misrepresented woman in the world.'

I wonder how it'll stand up up to the lies and contradictions gathered together on this thread.

Yes, I don't believe for a minute QEII thought they were asking for "Lillibet". There's no way she'd have agreed to that.

I've said a few times that becoming producers - real show runners, not just slapping their name on a product nobody else wants right at the end of its creation - is where they could be a real financial and repetitional success in Hollywood. I just don't think either of them have the intelligence to spot or come up with a good project that has nothing to do with them, their egos, their hobbies, their victimhood, their hobby horses, their childhoods, some faux feminist/"progressive" concept or anything really anyone outside their fan base would be interested in; let alone the capacity to go away and quietly work on learning the business and building something successful, whilst keeping their own selves in the background. They absolutely crave being in the public eye and competing with anything the RF does, so they don't have time for creating something lasting and useful.

I imagine she would have to get her handwriting in some where!

I think her "invest in me" comment is somehow meant to make us believe that, all these years she's been selflessly using her own money to invest in a couple of lame female led businesses, and a few minor charities for women and girls

No doubt, @Indianrollerbird, but "investment" can mean different things and I'd be interested to know whether it's actually involved the money which some assume, or merely some word salad advice/encouragement

Agreed.

Also, the problem with them is that neither of them are talented, or particularly bright, but they both think they are.

They couldn't even manage to produce a decent podcast, there's no way any film etc is going to succeed.

😂As if the other Queen herself would copy an almost 200 year recipe from the numpty who said on WLM she doesn't enjoy baking! We get that you don't bake much, Megs, from the 5 minutes of scone kneading! Mary was probably having to sniff the smelling salts reading that heresy!

They also claimed Highgrove jam was a copy of Meghan's jam! Honestly, she has the most stupid supporters out there.

@Puzzledandpissedoff - I suspect & it can be no more than that because I don't know her , she has put some modest amounts of money behind some startup companies run by women. Eg the bag one , where it sold out because Meghan wore it - but the women making those bags are paid a pittance compared to what the bag sells for. Likewise the coffee thing. I think she has chosen companies run by women , which let's face it is increasingly less unusual , but I think whilst using that trope she is hoping one of them will come off and earn her a fortune as an early investor. However stories such as the chap who gave Bodyshop a relatively modest investment in their early years are rare. The people who do earn real money are the proper founders who hold the majority of the shares & indeed often the VC companies who invest with meaningful money when those companies need it. I'm not saying it's impossible that one of her investments ( & I'm prepared to believe she's given actual money - but how much - different thing) will come good. However , as a chap said to me , often these things pay off in car changing money , not life changing money.

She's incapable of writing anything herself. Would have to be a ghost writer. However she really has no credibility and Harry's ghost writer seems to be quite scarred from dealing with her turd of a husband

Oh yes, it wouldn't surprise me at all if MM is to "investment" what Amber Heard is to "pledging" and "donation". Perhaps she thinks her talking about "women finding their voices" is all that is needed for her to do her bit for womankind.

Plus the Russian billionaire who lent them the house on Vancouver island when they first left the UK supposedly for six weeks over Christmas but then extended their stay until they got the flight down to California at the start of covid.

Re the Lilibet name . If I remember correctly when the comments started , H clapped back saying that the Queen had been “ supportive “( which I thought was an odd way of putting it) and he threatened to sue the BBC who stood by their story and H backed down .

Recollections may vary...

That's my recollection too @Mylovelygreendress , and the BBC article stands to this day. Combined with Robert Hardman's source saying how very upset she was that they had taken the "only thing that was hers and hers alone" (I'm paraphrasing), I think we can say with some confidence that Harry was, once again, not being truthful.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57408163

Mutually assured destruction? Ooh, that's a delicious thought!

I assumed her “investment” was time/support/motivational soundbites on bananas free advertising as she promoted the product or carried the bag or whatever.
Hence “investing in me” means spending the time on her own projects, advertising her own wares etc.
Maybe small sums exchanged hands. But I never took it to mean literal investment.

Heh, notice that the Temu part is refuted but no correction of the fact she's not a princess. An oversight I'm sure.