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Palace staff knew Andrew was sharing confidential files with Epstein so what will happen to them?

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CesarSoubreyon · 24/02/2026 10:23

On the email Andrew sent to Epstein sharing confidential information, palace staff were CC'd in, meaning that they knew what he was doing and did nothing to stop it.

Does this mean that palace staff could be arrested and possibly charged too? And if they knew, then surely higher up the chain would have known too? Probably the late Queen and Charles.

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jeffgoldblum · 24/02/2026 14:22

SerendipityJane · 24/02/2026 14:20

Once you start that thread then other names working for PA pop up. I won't type any here as that would alert the world. But once you being digging.

Ok thankyou, that’s what I wanted to know, so Andrews staff then.
well I’m not surprised.

RainbowBagels · 24/02/2026 14:22

catipuss · 24/02/2026 14:16

Part of Andrews job was promoting British business to foreign business men. As far as anyone was concerned at the time Epstein was just another business contact. Why would anyone query an email? It can be confidential but still be shared with people who might be investors or other interested parties. That was the whole point of trade envoys, I doubt anything really secret was mentioned in emails. To me it's more whether Andrew was getting kick backs or freebies for providing information to people who had no reason to have access to it. If or when Andrew was doing anything really bad it wouldn't have been in emails it would been in private meetings.

I'm sure the late Queen and Charles had no interest in the minutiae of what the trade envoys were doing. Very interested in the outcome particularly if there were great deals done for British businesses, but there will have been thousands of emails, messages, phone calls between the trade delegations and any number of business people and foreign government officials, the late Queen wouldn't have been checking them all!

He was not promoting British Business. He was an appalling trade envoy. People raised concerns, diplomats and other staff knew. The taxpayer was being billed. It is beyond belief that no one in the Palace raised concerns with The Queen had pushed for him to be given the job, and was paying him. If the staff had not raised concerns with The Queen, or if they had but it wasn't acted on, both of these things mean that the Palace machinery is not working. They either didn't feel able to raise serious concerns or their brief was to cover for the RF whatever they did.

CesarSoubreyon · 24/02/2026 16:52

Sorry been at work so delayed replying. But yes, Amanda Thirsk who i would imagine is considered palace staff, unless I am wrong in that?

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jeffgoldblum · 24/02/2026 17:16

CesarSoubreyon · 24/02/2026 16:52

Sorry been at work so delayed replying. But yes, Amanda Thirsk who i would imagine is considered palace staff, unless I am wrong in that?

She’s was Andrews private secretary for 16 years.

Longshinyhair · 24/02/2026 17:45

catipuss · 24/02/2026 14:16

Part of Andrews job was promoting British business to foreign business men. As far as anyone was concerned at the time Epstein was just another business contact. Why would anyone query an email? It can be confidential but still be shared with people who might be investors or other interested parties. That was the whole point of trade envoys, I doubt anything really secret was mentioned in emails. To me it's more whether Andrew was getting kick backs or freebies for providing information to people who had no reason to have access to it. If or when Andrew was doing anything really bad it wouldn't have been in emails it would been in private meetings.

I'm sure the late Queen and Charles had no interest in the minutiae of what the trade envoys were doing. Very interested in the outcome particularly if there were great deals done for British businesses, but there will have been thousands of emails, messages, phone calls between the trade delegations and any number of business people and foreign government officials, the late Queen wouldn't have been checking them all!

It won’t be long before the republicans on here will be demanding the cook, cleaner and gardener are arrested for breathing the same air as Andrew, it’s all gone very Witchfinder General on here.

simpsonthecat · 24/02/2026 17:48

No? Why would anyone want someone arrested who had no knowledge of anything Andrew was up to as far as malfeasance in public office. Doing that would just muddy the waters.

LondonLady1980 · 24/02/2026 17:53

What sort of information was he passing on??

Carla786 · 24/02/2026 20:20

Bedheadbeachbum · 24/02/2026 10:31

It speaks volumes that palace staff, security, police protection officers etc haven't been questioned already by the Royal Family. Or perhaps they have been questioned but it hasn't been publicly passed on.

Watching a YouTube vid, apparently there was an instance if a police protection officer trying to report a Royal for speeding. That officer got removed from the unit and sent back into uniform (massively demoted).

There's a huge power imbalance with the staff of the elite, as you'd expect. So if the police can't do their job properly around them and enforce the law then how on earth could normal staffers?

This cannot continue.

Vivienne1000 · 24/02/2026 20:24

I once caught a couple, who were both married, and very senior having a quickie in the store cupboard. Never said a thing to anyone

RainbowBagels · 24/02/2026 21:33

Vivienne1000 · 24/02/2026 20:24

I once caught a couple, who were both married, and very senior having a quickie in the store cupboard. Never said a thing to anyone

Having an affair isn't illegal. Some of these people were police officers. They have a duty to report potential crimes.

Vivienne1000 · 24/02/2026 21:47

RainbowBagels · 24/02/2026 21:33

Having an affair isn't illegal. Some of these people were police officers. They have a duty to report potential crimes.

Not so easy when you are worried about losing your job.

MidWayThruJanuary · 24/02/2026 21:51

The email request from AMW re asking a royal protection officer to look for dirt on Virginia Guiffre was sent to TLQ’s deputy press secretary in 2011 - just before the Mail published the photo of AMW with his arm around her. What did that man do with that information?

RainbowBagels · 24/02/2026 21:54

Vivienne1000 · 24/02/2026 21:47

Not so easy when you are worried about losing your job.

Well exactly which brings us back to why? Who was threatening them with losing their jobs? If someone in the Royal Household then the Royal household needs to be subject to an external audit. If the police then they are public servants who are supposed to be upholding the law. So it's all very well everyone saying ' not one is above the law' and patting themselves on the back about arresting a Prince to prove it, but clearly the RF are above the law. The Queen would never have allowed police to arrest AMW and never have stripped him off his titles so he would have got away Scot free as he had for 25 years if the Epstein files had not been released.

Bedheadbeachbum · 26/02/2026 13:24

But this power imbalance is just how things are at every level.

It's sad but it's the way of the world. You've just got to hope people aren't doing things that are too horrific.

I mean, I'm watching this thing on the water companies and it's horrendous - a post office style scandal. And here we are with the RF, partly tangled up in this horrific grooming operation.

You've got corporate cover ups, Royal cover ups.

Honestly I still love people, my friends and neighbors but I don't trust anyone in power.

milveycrohn · 28/02/2026 15:25

You would first need to establish that the information was confidential, and how confidential (at the time).
Then you would have to establish who was 'in the loop' so to speak, and who was not. Epstein seems to have been 'friends' with lots of important people in various countries, so we do not know who else he knew and in what capacity.

Rhaidimiddim · 28/02/2026 18:47

RainbowBagels · 24/02/2026 13:57

I think this needs to be done as an investigation into internal Palace procedures and culture. It seems they are incapable of investigating themselves, as the culture of secrecy, deference and arse covering will most probably mean they cannot do that effectively. The Palace needs to get someone external in and have a look at what is happening within their households and they need to be accountable. None of this forelock tugging nonsense anymore. They are having a long awaited and richly deserved reckoning.

Also, the person at the top of the BP pyramid - the monarch - cannot be prosecuted. So the person finally accountable....... doesn't have to give a damn what goes on below them.

Rhaidimiddim · 28/02/2026 18:49

RainbowBagels · 24/02/2026 21:54

Well exactly which brings us back to why? Who was threatening them with losing their jobs? If someone in the Royal Household then the Royal household needs to be subject to an external audit. If the police then they are public servants who are supposed to be upholding the law. So it's all very well everyone saying ' not one is above the law' and patting themselves on the back about arresting a Prince to prove it, but clearly the RF are above the law. The Queen would never have allowed police to arrest AMW and never have stripped him off his titles so he would have got away Scot free as he had for 25 years if the Epstein files had not been released.

Just a pedantic point. The monarch IS above the law.

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