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Why was Prince Philip allowed to keep saying offensive things?

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SewANeedlePullingThread · 06/01/2026 10:30

There are so many examples of Philip saying offensive things such as:

"If you stay here much longer you'll all be slitty-eyed." This was said to a group of students during a royal visit to China.

"If a cricketer, for instance, suddenly decided to go into a school and batter a lot of people to death with a cricket bat, which he could do very easily, I mean, are you going to ban cricket bats?" This was said in response to calls to ban guns after the Dunblane incident.

"It looks as if it was put in by an Indian." This was Philip talking about a fuse box in a factory.

There are so many more examples. Why was he allowed to act this way whilst representing the Royal Family? I like a laugh, I can take a joke, but he was so often just really offensive.

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WilfredsPies · 06/01/2026 17:05

Owlsareus · 06/01/2026 11:02

He should have been cancelled. The way anyone else ( celebrities) would be if they said it
I just saw a nurse was struck off for posting about the boats . So it’s in the same vein as this

He was married to the Queen. If she wasn’t prepared to keep him stashed away where he couldn’t make these remarks in public, then who else was going to have stopped him? The concept of ‘cancelling’ anyone, let alone a member of the Royal family, when he was saying those things was unheard of and would have needed the monarch to be in support of it. She very clearly wasn’t.

And it’s not like the press would just stop reporting on the RF, or the public that turned out to see them would either boo him, or remain silent when he walked past, or would refuse to shake his hand etc. Especially when people like Bernard Manning were still well known and in the public consciousness and he still had fans who thought he was funny.

Attitudes have changed. Andrew has now been stripped of his titles for what he’s done (which I don’t think the Queen ever would have allowed) and I very much doubt that Charles or William would stand for it if Camilla or Catherine started making those comments or similar (not that I think either would be stupid enough to do so, even if they thought it in private).

Diamond7272 · 06/01/2026 17:05

Hello OP.

I was just pondering how awful Prince Phillip was compared to other men of his generation. I can think of at least 1000 more influential men who spread racist ideals.

You need to create a lot more posts about how offended you are regarding these men... Incidentally, they didn't do much good unlike Philip. They were bad, the dark side, darth vader bad.

1.Enoch Powell. Not nice. Had issues.

  1. Sir oswald moseley. He liked the nazis and was British aristocracy.
  2. Idi amin. He was black and expelled all Asians overnight from Uganda.. He also gave himself a VC for valour.
4.pol pot. I dont think he liked anyone.
  1. The Ku Kux Klan. They weren't very pleasant and had issues with other races.
  2. Stalin. He didn't like anyone who didn't worship him. Not a fan of Ukrainians.
  3. Emperor hirohito and admiral tojo. Thought the Chinese people were racially inferior.

So here's some better examples to be offended about, some of whom were themselves non white but thought they were superior.

I enjoy waiting for your Idi amin thread...

Oh saddam hussein... He didn't like the northern marsh Arabs either. V racist.

Philip made a few errors, but he's hardly the poster boy for racism. I feel the OP just has issues with the monarchy and struggled with GCSE history...

Pedallleur · 06/01/2026 17:07

Who was going to stop him? Those were different times and if some Johnny Foreigner took offence we'll hard luck. Being insulted by Royalty? People dreamt of such a thing.

CremeCarmel · 06/01/2026 17:10

Diamond7272 · 06/01/2026 17:05

Hello OP.

I was just pondering how awful Prince Phillip was compared to other men of his generation. I can think of at least 1000 more influential men who spread racist ideals.

You need to create a lot more posts about how offended you are regarding these men... Incidentally, they didn't do much good unlike Philip. They were bad, the dark side, darth vader bad.

1.Enoch Powell. Not nice. Had issues.

  1. Sir oswald moseley. He liked the nazis and was British aristocracy.
  2. Idi amin. He was black and expelled all Asians overnight from Uganda.. He also gave himself a VC for valour.
4.pol pot. I dont think he liked anyone.
  1. The Ku Kux Klan. They weren't very pleasant and had issues with other races.
  2. Stalin. He didn't like anyone who didn't worship him. Not a fan of Ukrainians.
  3. Emperor hirohito and admiral tojo. Thought the Chinese people were racially inferior.

So here's some better examples to be offended about, some of whom were themselves non white but thought they were superior.

I enjoy waiting for your Idi amin thread...

Oh saddam hussein... He didn't like the northern marsh Arabs either. V racist.

Philip made a few errors, but he's hardly the poster boy for racism. I feel the OP just has issues with the monarchy and struggled with GCSE history...

This post is hilarious. Talk about derailing the thread.

Gloriia · 06/01/2026 17:11

CremeCarmel · 06/01/2026 17:10

This post is hilarious. Talk about derailing the thread.

It's true, far more offensive people to be offended about.

Diamond7272 · 06/01/2026 17:18

GCSE history: please write an essay on who was most racist in the 1970s and why?

Idi Amin. v Prince Philip....

Lord help us.

Idi amin didn't like the Jewish people much either and was a little fond of terrorists... Good movie: the raid in entebbe...

But amin was a black man and Philip was white... So is Philip worse???

Please OP just crawl into a hole, let the old man rest in peace and remember the good he did.

BooksandCats123 · 06/01/2026 17:25

lizzyBennet08 · 06/01/2026 16:51

Mmm. My elderly dad left school very early to join the family farm and can often say things or use expressions that wouldn't be used today. He is nearly 90 now and in poor health and I don't feel it's a good use of my time or fair to him to constantly correct him on the correct terms for things. He absolutely was a product of his time. In my opinion it's not fair to judge him by the standards of the today and I know him to be a good dad, friend ans neighbour even of he could be more political correct .

This is a silly excuse.
During my childhood 1980s it was not okay to use racial slurs or just go around saying whatever you felt like no matter how offensive.
Your dad would have been in his fifties during this time so your argument makes no sense.
He has had 40 plus years to adjust his outlook, he and many like him just don’t want to, it’s so entitled.

Driftingawaynow · 06/01/2026 17:36

Because the public accepted it, and were groomed to do so by the media.

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 06/01/2026 17:48

SerafinasGoose · 06/01/2026 16:36

As others have pointed out, plenty of people and media did criticise his racism. It was not wholly accepted as a social 'norm' (even when it was dismissed as 'gaffes').

I'm aware of the atrocities committed during WWII. A suggestion that this is in any way a disclaimer leaves me speechless.

Racism didn't 'naturally' die out - it didn't die out at all. It's since taken on a more covert, micro-aggressive and less direct shape. Although to look at any thread on this subject on Mumsnet, the denials that racism exists in any way in 2020s UK - 'not a racist country' is a phrase that crops up a lot - tells a lot about attitudes in general.

I'm also failing to see where you make the leap that this in any way denigrates the work done to fight racism, or that this is a denial that this work was ever needed. If anything, it's needed more now that it ever was. It hasn't gone away. It's merely being expressed in less overt terms. The boiling down of racists into 'nice' people and non-racists as 'nasty' ones is also crudely oversimplistic and a straw man. Everyone knows that human beings are more complex than this. And yes, in the past there were plenty of people who did know better than to indulge in racist behaviour.

It's not a generational thing and some generations don't behave better than others. To suggest the reverse is true is extremely naive.

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This started off because you denied racist lanuage was once common in the UK.

You deny there was a problem you deny they work that went and continue to go into tackling it. I'm frankly sick on MN history that my 1950s GM were not full time working Mums that my Mum in early 1970s was not let go for being pg. It's dimissing actual history in favour of some mythical version.

We are not on some endless progression to a better more enlighten world - and denying that racism langauge was common place as you insisted to that poster is a huge part of the problem.

I've never said UK isn't racits that all from you - shifting goal posts -trying to climb up on some moral high ground after pointing out how dimissive you were being about racism. How predicabaly the reponse - I can't be part of the problem else I can't lecture everyone else Hmm I'll act like you said something you didn't then attack that straw man.

The dead man outdates opinions of his time and class and as I said often called out at the time are not the issue your denial of actual history to score some supposedly moral suppority point is an issue. The dimissive ignorance masquerade as moral suppority is incredibly annoying to encounter- so I'm going to stop with this now.

Elbowpatch · 06/01/2026 17:48

GlomOfNit · 06/01/2026 14:20

Oh don't be so daft! 😂 He didn't confuse 'cowboy' with 'Indian'. He 100% was not mistakenly referencing First Nation Americans ... He had grown up among people who had colonial lives, it was absolutely a reference to employing a 'local' if you lived in pre-1949 India. He might not have but so many of his social circle had. I know people who grew up in places like Kenya and they've reported similar derogatory phrases used about native Kenyans.

Indeed. You only have to Google “Indian wiring” to see exactly what he was talking about.

CurlewKate · 06/01/2026 17:53

I don’t understand why people are happy with the idea of Philip representing our country abroad. But hey, people didn’t mind Boris Johnson on the world stage either……

SerendipityJane · 06/01/2026 17:55

Driftingawaynow · 06/01/2026 17:36

Because the public accepted it, and were groomed to do so by the media.

I wonder how old the Queen was when Prince Philip met her ?

Elbowpatch · 06/01/2026 17:56

CurlewKate · 06/01/2026 17:53

I don’t understand why people are happy with the idea of Philip representing our country abroad. But hey, people didn’t mind Boris Johnson on the world stage either……

He isn’t. He’s dead.

Diamond7272 · 06/01/2026 18:07

SerendipityJane · 06/01/2026 17:55

I wonder how old the Queen was when Prince Philip met her ?

Dead god, a new low for a post.

Yes, I think he first met her when she was about 14 and sheltering at Windsor Castle from German v1 and v2 rockets. So what?

He was a good husband for 70 years. Her rock.

He made a few racist comments that the press jumped on, made a lot of money out of, and were happy to repeat time and again to sell more papers. He wasn't perfect. He made mistakes. I get it.

But as I've said before, he's hardly a poster boy for racism. Or indeed any crime or thing to be 'cancelled' about today. You'd need a list 10 feet long before his name would crop up.

Please people, go to the library. Rent a few books. Stupid is forever otherwise.

Diamond7272 · 06/01/2026 18:12

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CurlewKate · 06/01/2026 18:13

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I am aware. I said happy with the idea.

Twonewcats · 06/01/2026 18:15

I mean, Trump is one of the most (if not the most) powerful person in the world, and he's got horrendous views and has said horrific things

DBSFstupid · 06/01/2026 18:18

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School won't help them. It's feeding the problem.

DBSFstupid · 06/01/2026 18:19

CurlewKate · 06/01/2026 17:53

I don’t understand why people are happy with the idea of Philip representing our country abroad. But hey, people didn’t mind Boris Johnson on the world stage either……

Eh?

Sometimessmiling · 06/01/2026 18:19

MidnightPatrol · 06/01/2026 10:34

He was from a different time, so some of those comments not seen as quite as bad as they would be today…

I felt they were dreadful at the very time they were said.

CurlewKate · 06/01/2026 18:22

Sometimessmiling · 06/01/2026 18:19

I felt they were dreadful at the very time they were said.

Yes- lots of people thought they were dreadful and embarrassing at the time. Including my parents who were born not long after him.

Diamond7272 · 06/01/2026 18:22

Elbowpatch · 06/01/2026 17:56

He isn’t. He’s dead.

You said 'are happy' (present tense)...

You mean 'were happy' presumably before he died.

Happy or not, the British public had no say. He was there as the Queen's husband, later long serving husband, later long, long, long serving husband...

To give him his dues, I doubt he was that thrilled to have to welcome the Al Assads of Syria or any other nut jobs to Britain on state visits... 'Papa doc' of Haiti? - yep he came over and said hello on a state visit. He was truly psychotic!!!!

Even worse, I think the tory government under Thatcher gave that Zimbabwean dictator Robert mugabe a knighthood... Philip or the Queen would have had to turn up in the 80s to honour that crazy's work... (shame the sword didn't slip)

I feel sorry for Philip having to represent us at times!!!! Biting his lip. Praying for antibacterial hand gel...

ChopstickNovice · 06/01/2026 18:26

SewANeedlePullingThread · 06/01/2026 10:46

My Chinese friend didnt and doesn’t. It was a conversation with her yesterday that has prompted my thread.

And he wasn’t a comedian, he was a member of the British Royal family.

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I am half Chinese and I don't find it hilarious either. Kids pulled up the corners of their eyes in school and called me "ching chong."

Diamond7272 · 06/01/2026 18:32

Imagine Philip having to represent the Queen during the state visit of Mugabe...

His press secretary gently tapping on his shoulder.. "say something, sir!"

To give Philip his dues, what exactly do you say to a dictator who was just about to wreck the Zimbabwean economy, repossess/steal all the white farms and starve his population, whilst stealing all the wealth? And we gave that nutter a knighthood... Arise Sir Robert Mugabe!

Philip had a tough job. He didn't interview for the job, it was the life he accepted/was expected of him by the foreign and commonwealth office for marrying the queen.

Theroadt · 06/01/2026 18:56

justasking111 · 06/01/2026 13:48

Yes it's odd how some people take offence on our behalf without considering that we might not be offended by the remark but very irritated by the puffed up indignant person spouting in the media.

Gives them an opportunity to virtue-signal.

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