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waitam · 07/11/2025 20:22

IHT is presumably charged on private assets/trusts passing under will or intestacy. Forgive me if I am missing something or am ignorant, but I cannot understand why there is an exemption from Monarch to Monarch on everything they own personally.

Surely all they will leave behind are their private holdings so the likes of Windsor Castle/Great Park land and properties etc. (Crown Estate owns them) won't incur IHT. Therefore they should pay IHT on their OWN assets. If any of their "forever" homes/paintings/jewels/racehorses need to be sold to pay it, so be it. Or are these assets (in private hands) too valuable to be sold off to the highest bidder. Something rotten in the State of Denmark if so, given that we have no access to them do we?

What am I misunderstanding here please? I'm open to chastisement if I haven't realised something fundamental here.

Dontmeantooffendbut · 07/11/2025 20:38

l am an American and l love the Royal Family sounds like you all got up out of the wrong side of the bed today. l think you have more dire problems in England than worrying about how much tax he pays, its really none of your business.

QuenchedSquirrel · 07/11/2025 21:00

Dontmeantooffendbut · 07/11/2025 20:38

l am an American and l love the Royal Family sounds like you all got up out of the wrong side of the bed today. l think you have more dire problems in England than worrying about how much tax he pays, its really none of your business.

🥱

MatchaMatchaMatcha · 07/11/2025 21:03

VanessaSanessa · 05/11/2025 12:26

If William wants to modernise the monarchy, the first thing he needs to do is ensure there is transparency across all the Royals finances and that they need to abide by the same rules as the rest of the country. Pay tax, unseal wills, declare if the duchies are private or public. Everything.

Then, he might get a bit more respect. Until then, no William, you aren't at all like the rest of us.

The crap the Royals have gotten away with money wise is partly down to the amount of deference there was to QEII. The government now need to grow a backbone and demand transparency.

💯

MatchaMatchaMatcha · 07/11/2025 21:06

Makes you wonder if he would prefer to see the end of the monarchy, the way he and his wife do the bare minimum of work and engagements and extract the maximum from his Duchy and related perks.

@DaphneduM I think this is how the monarchy will end, when they decide they no longer want to do the job. Then they'll slink off with swathes of enormous wealth and we'll never know how much they take with them. We absolutely need complete insight into the Royal finances so that they can be appropriately redistributed.

QuenchedSquirrel · 07/11/2025 22:10

MatchaMatchaMatcha · 07/11/2025 21:06

Makes you wonder if he would prefer to see the end of the monarchy, the way he and his wife do the bare minimum of work and engagements and extract the maximum from his Duchy and related perks.

@DaphneduM I think this is how the monarchy will end, when they decide they no longer want to do the job. Then they'll slink off with swathes of enormous wealth and we'll never know how much they take with them. We absolutely need complete insight into the Royal finances so that they can be appropriately redistributed.

I think he'd like to see the end of the parts where they have to meet and greet the crowds and stuff like that. Let's face it, him and Catherine barely do anything of that kind.

He has his pet projects and he seems to just want to stick to them.

Which is fair enough on the one hand because who wouldn't.

But there is a point to them getting money for upkeep and being out and about, and it's not on to shirk that but still get the money and put it towards what you want to do.

If they're funded the government should give them a set amount, which increases with inflation, not a % of Duchy profits, and tell them 50% is for upkeep of palaces etc, and 50% is for being seen out and about, with a set number of public engagements per month that have to be undertaken in various parts of the country.

There was a podcast I listened to the other day which said the time when we'll have a chance to meet the monarch and the working royals is over as William is showing us he intends to be a lot more invisible.

I don't personally have an interest in seeing them but others do and it's those others who are the bedrock of monarchial support.

jumpingthehighjump · 07/11/2025 22:11

User5306921 · 07/11/2025 19:43

Disagree.

William trots out the kids when they need a good injection of PR.

And his PR team will tell him what he needs to do so he’ll do it. The comments under the recent photo of him reading notes were hilarious. Royalists commenting how ‘regal’ he looks and how they can’t wait for him to be the next king.

I presume they delete all negative comments.

Absolutely!

They wheel out the kids when they need to shore up support
Silly videos, Charlotte holding a football, George cheering on a football match
It's all contrived and designed to pull at the heartstrings

Mondaytuesdayhappydays · 07/11/2025 22:14

VanessaSanessa · 05/11/2025 12:42

I read in Norman Baker's book where some government minister sent a letter to Prince Charles querying something financial. Charles through his private secretary fudged the answer in his response. The minister wrote back, that he was deeply grateful for PC's response and he remains as always, his highnesses loyal servant.

I'd have to check the book for the exact wording but that's the crap the government go on with. 🙄

This rings a bell to me too!

jumpingthehighjump · 07/11/2025 22:15

waitam · 07/11/2025 20:22

IHT is presumably charged on private assets/trusts passing under will or intestacy. Forgive me if I am missing something or am ignorant, but I cannot understand why there is an exemption from Monarch to Monarch on everything they own personally.

Surely all they will leave behind are their private holdings so the likes of Windsor Castle/Great Park land and properties etc. (Crown Estate owns them) won't incur IHT. Therefore they should pay IHT on their OWN assets. If any of their "forever" homes/paintings/jewels/racehorses need to be sold to pay it, so be it. Or are these assets (in private hands) too valuable to be sold off to the highest bidder. Something rotten in the State of Denmark if so, given that we have no access to them do we?

What am I misunderstanding here please? I'm open to chastisement if I haven't realised something fundamental here.

Good post

You are totally right. They are so protected financially that there is no reason why they should not pay IHT

Their eye watering wealth will never ever be eroded by paying what the rest of us do - inheritance tax. I find it appalling they don't.

jumpingthehighjump · 07/11/2025 22:17

Dontmeantooffendbut · 07/11/2025 20:38

l am an American and l love the Royal Family sounds like you all got up out of the wrong side of the bed today. l think you have more dire problems in England than worrying about how much tax he pays, its really none of your business.

Weird

It's totally OUR business
Not yours

QuenchedSquirrel · 07/11/2025 22:19

Queen Victoria had a lot of issues when she disappeared after Albert's death for decades. Republicanism increased quite a bit!

William might do well to consider his level of visibility, as well as his taxes.

Especially when younger people (of whomever a high percentage wonder why we have a monarchy) keep replacing the more royalist older people.

MatchaMatchaMatcha · 07/11/2025 22:27

There was a podcast I listened to the other day which said the time when we'll have a chance to meet the monarch and the working royals is over as William is showing us he intends to be a lot more invisible

That'll do for them, too. People keep saying what a superb king William will make but personally I think he'll behave much more like oligarch.

We need to rethink the while thing and ought to be a republic, but I don't think our national psyche is strong enough to withstand the identity change currently.

jumpingthehighjump · 07/11/2025 22:33

MatchaMatchaMatcha · 07/11/2025 22:27

There was a podcast I listened to the other day which said the time when we'll have a chance to meet the monarch and the working royals is over as William is showing us he intends to be a lot more invisible

That'll do for them, too. People keep saying what a superb king William will make but personally I think he'll behave much more like oligarch.

We need to rethink the while thing and ought to be a republic, but I don't think our national psyche is strong enough to withstand the identity change currently.

Wnat a wise post. Totally agree

There will be no changes except more invisibility. The British public can't stomach any more change after Brexshit so William is on a winner.

Do less. Send out saccharine videos twice a year. Job done ✅

Spectre8 · 07/11/2025 23:35

Dontmeantooffendbut · 07/11/2025 20:38

l am an American and l love the Royal Family sounds like you all got up out of the wrong side of the bed today. l think you have more dire problems in England than worrying about how much tax he pays, its really none of your business.

With his 'subjects' are about to face increases in taxes which for some will send them over the edge as they wont be able to afford it, having to hear how the broadest of shoulder should carry the burden well he has the broadest shoulders of us all and yet he isn't paying his fair share in taxes. Its so disgusting, which is why you are seeing the backlash aboit the lack of transparency of their finances.

Its an absolute slap in our faces when you have them preaching how they are just like us and how they don't want to do much work yet they aren't like us they dont pay the right amount in tax and they are basically wanting to scrounge off the back of theirs subjects to keep them in their lifestyle without working for it.

Maybe focus on the politics amd dire problems back in your country instead of ours which you clearly demonstrated knowing very little about.

BeeWitchy · 08/11/2025 00:25

Dontmeantooffendbut · 07/11/2025 20:38

l am an American and l love the Royal Family sounds like you all got up out of the wrong side of the bed today. l think you have more dire problems in England than worrying about how much tax he pays, its really none of your business.

I think you’ve got more dire problems in America to be worrying about, then what is being posted on the Royal Family forum of Mumsnet.

But hey ho.

bluegreygreen · 08/11/2025 09:53

Its an absolute slap in our faces when you have them preaching how they are just like us and how they don't want to do much work

Can we have the reference for that please?

CathyorClaire · 08/11/2025 11:45

The seabeds that you mention are owned by the crown estate.

They were annexed by E2 who had 'seen something' about the CE taking over the rights to land under the sea in the 1960's and inexplicably got handed them.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/feb/05/how-the-queen-came-to-own-the-seabed-around-britain

CathyorClaire · 08/11/2025 11:49

I think this is how the monarchy will end, when they decide they no longer want to do the job

I think they've already decided they don't want the job.

Just the perks.

Royal with a small 'r' until it comes to slimming down the take.

Thetruthisoutfinally · 08/11/2025 12:01

VanessaSanessa · 05/11/2025 12:26

If William wants to modernise the monarchy, the first thing he needs to do is ensure there is transparency across all the Royals finances and that they need to abide by the same rules as the rest of the country. Pay tax, unseal wills, declare if the duchies are private or public. Everything.

Then, he might get a bit more respect. Until then, no William, you aren't at all like the rest of us.

The crap the Royals have gotten away with money wise is partly down to the amount of deference there was to QEII. The government now need to grow a backbone and demand transparency.

Absolutely this!

Our spineless MPs have let us all down! Too much deference and obsequiousness and waiting for a gong!

jumpingthehighjump · 08/11/2025 12:31

CathyorClaire · 08/11/2025 11:49

I think this is how the monarchy will end, when they decide they no longer want to do the job

I think they've already decided they don't want the job.

Just the perks.

Royal with a small 'r' until it comes to slimming down the take.

Yes William has said in an interview he wants to Royal with a small 'r'.
I would LOVE to know what he means by that

Do less?
Not show their faces so much?
Be one of the people?
Slim it down so much they have to receive less dosh?

MatchaMatchaMatcha · 08/11/2025 12:43

Royalty with a small R shouldn't exist. Either they expect people to pander to their desire for perks and unaccpuntability or they're normal people.

QuenchedSquirrel · 08/11/2025 12:51

bluegreygreen · 08/11/2025 09:53

Its an absolute slap in our faces when you have them preaching how they are just like us and how they don't want to do much work

Can we have the reference for that please?

Is that the Royal 'we'? 😉

pottylolly · 08/11/2025 12:56

I would be shocked if he paid anything personally because his inheritances are tied up in offshore trusts.

jumpingthehighjump · 08/11/2025 13:10

pottylolly · 08/11/2025 12:56

I would be shocked if he paid anything personally because his inheritances are tied up in offshore trusts.

If someone refuses to disclose how much, despite his father having done so for a long time, it is obvious he is not paying the full amount. Could be £3.50 for all we know

bluegreygreen · 08/11/2025 13:47

QuenchedSquirrel · 08/11/2025 12:51

Is that the Royal 'we'? 😉

Sorry - please may I? 😂