Newsagents on Andrew

[CurlewKate]

An interesting take. https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-news-agents/id1640878689?i=1000734457036

So not driven by William, KC took responsibility for it. Emily’s sources would be impeccable.

Sopel showing himself to be a proper old school Royalist!

I stopped listening to The News Agents as both Jon and Emily are absolutely insufferably smug. Lewis I can just about take but the other two are never done going on about how awesome they are or what holidays they're going on or who they've met.

So last week Emily said William had a meeting with B&E and basically said you will lose your titles if you don't persuade your father to leave Royal Lodge - and that was via her sources but she seems to be back tracking on that now.

Are Emily's sources are a bit flip floppy or doe she just recite the most recent thing she's been told?

I find that the Newsagents find themselves more impressive than anyone else does. What this story is proving is that a lot of so called sources aren't accurate.

So, sources are now that KCIII went for this, and he got Andrew on side after telling him he was risking bringing down the whole monarchy.

William, apparently, is the one concerned about Andrew's mental health.

Lewis says that it is "a litany of sadness and torment" to breed a family to be our heads of state.

Couldn't agree more!

She was interviewed by Evan Davies on PM this evening. Andrew has no self awareness or humility, puffed up on his privilege.

As he should be, considering he has championed mental health. Losing a title bestowed on you since birth that has been a large part of your identity all your life is a huge blow to the psyche. Along with that losing your home, station, and the humiliation all happening in public in a very prominent way and all at once. I'm glad to see William has indeed learned something about MH and is sensitive to the impact. At least he's not championing a cause just for the good optics unlike, it appears Eugenie and her anti-slavery charity.

The action regarding Andrew is the right one. But even convicted criminals who have committed heinous crimes are assessed for suicide potential in prison and protected accordingly and I hope an assessment is being made in Andrew's case, though from the coverage I have watched, it appears he is behaving as if he still doesn't get the memo.

Her sources = a couple of guys in Wiliam's office feeding the same bullshit to anyone gullible enough to fall for it.

You see I think William's team don't reveal much and that is why the media hate him so much.

Is t it about time we heard from the royal protection officers that must have been around Andrew
so many people including Fergie have enabled this Nonce for years

I found that hard to believe tbh and I think it’s a good way of keeping William away from the decision in case there is any fall out, but if Charles is truly the ruthless driving force, then why has it taken so long? He’s prevaricated and protected his brother forever!

They even said that Anne and Edward were urging caution when it comes to Andrew’s mh.

Sorry but my sympathies lie with the mh of those trafficked girls.

The mh of the staff he berated and humiliated.

The mh of the diplomats and PPOs who he constantly put in difficult positions professionally speaking.

The mh of the women whom he used and dropped like a stone.

The mh of the small tradesmen to whom they owed money.

I do have sympathy for Andrew as an abused eleven year boy. I think his family are dysfunctional frankly. But he also had a lot of privilege and wealth and access to a different life that many abused people do not ever have the chance of. And he has constantly and consciously chosen to use his wealth and privilege for entirely selfish gains and in the process did a lot of harm to others. And by all accounts he still doesn’t get it.

I heard on one of the commentaries today that the very process of removing the title of Prince made it easier for more people to come for forward to testify and it made it easier for police and others to question him further.

Which incidentally rather puts paid to the idea that they are not above the law and that their wealth and influence does not have a protective effect!

Honestly, why would anyone care about his mental health? He hasn’t shown any concern for the mental health of his staff or the women he abused.

Wasn’t that Rory Stewart (someone I had a lot of time for up to this point) who said that we should all be focusing on “more important” things than women’s safety?

Yeah well Rory, if we had all focused on women’s safety a little more, then the great loathsome orange one would not currently be in power in the White House!

Rory doesn't give a shit about women. He's such a disappointment.

I think what he said was that given the other things going on in the world, the media was giving a disproportionate amount of attention to what title Andrew might have/where Andrew might live.

Which to be honest, I can’t really disagree with

But really what Rory Stewart was doing was massively downplaying the impact of violence against women and girls. Because he doesn't think it's important

@Wellthatsacharlingknot "Which incidentally rather puts paid to the idea that they are not above the law and that their wealth and influence does not have a protective effect!"

You honestly believe that that rich and powerful men don't get away with murder? Jeez. The establishment has protected the RF for years and Andrew's been indulging in shed loads of dodgy, seedy and darn right criminal behaviour for literally decades. The protective cloak has certainly worked its magic so far. Just because "sources" are muttering about people coming forward and police investigations blah blah blah, it hasn't happened yet and quite frankly I (and millions of others) will believe it when we see it. We've heard it all before so don't hold your breath.

I stopped listening to The Rest is Politics after Rory and Alistair's disgraceful comments regarding Justin Welby where they tried to excuse his actions (or lack of them).

Rory Stewart has always been a prick.

Yes, totally agree with this. It’s a wonder that any of them appear normal. Andrew’s problems all stem from growing up believing that he was special, could have anything he wanted and the weirdness of people fawning over him without having to actually do anything to earn respect. He is the outcome of this. Treating other humans as commodities, to service his every whim.

I personally think that Charles past behaviour has been pretty grim too (although nothing as illegal/unsavoury as Andrew). No wonder Harry is so f’d up.