Is Andrew moving out of Royal Lodge or not

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I keep reading conflicting stories. One said William has threatened ro remove Beatrice and Eugenie's titles if he doesnt. Has he even got the power to do that? Another said Fergie and Andrew have demanded enough money for each of them to buy a separate property. Its never ending.

No idea BUT what I can't work out is why the RF would feel obliged to house that grifter Sarah Ferguson at all. She's his ex-wife from a very short marriage.
Unless part of her settlement was to be housed for life? But surely that wouldn't extend to guaranteed housing within a royal estate?

The queen gave her a house for her and the girls when divorced, she sold it. Some people never take responsibility for their own lives.

It’s point-blank effing weird Fergie is still about. At that recent funeral, for example…on what earth is the ex wife normally at something like that?

Whole lot of them need to sod off.

I don't know. I'm watching this space in between the spring cleaning.

Well as I understand it William will have the power to issue letters patent removing princeley titles once he succeeds his father. As for the gruesome twosme demanding enough money for a house each, when they divorced the ate Queen gave SF money to buy a home for herself which she and her daughters and she recently sold her London property for millions. They can afford to house themselves and preferably not in crown property.

Does anyone listen to the Newsagents podcast?

A bit of behind the curtain info:
The media ( BBC certainly and others) were contacted by the ‘palace’on Friday I think with a strange message . They were told to wait on perimeter of royal lodge and to watch for ‘passing traffic’. This passing traffic was arranged so Charles could be photographed driving near royal lodge and the media could use that. For what ?? To pretend that Charles is doing something

The BBC had a helicopter up etc and the Windsors were spooked and accused the media of making it a ‘circus ‘

Dont tell me the royals don’t use the media .
Dont tell me that the Windsors will do anything but use smoke and mirrors to fool the stupid

They are all as bad as Andrew. And they haven’t answered the simple question of why now? They’ve known about Epstein and the royals for over a decade .
They are pretending to act now because we know. No other reason

They're as bad as Andrew?
They used trafficked girls and lied about it?
I don't think so.

She also sold her Belgravia house for 4.2 million just before her own Epstein scandal erupted. Call me cynical but she sold that house, pocketed the proceeds from it, and is now demanding one from the state. There's greed and then there's this behaviour. I'm truly shocked.

Expecting money from the state is the very least of it

There are questions which need answered about ALL crown ( ie our) properties and how little the Windsors pay .
It is all covered up

But they cover up much more than financial greed

Yes, I agree. The level of greed and entitlement is off the scale.
But mostly people are disgusted with the whole Epstein business.

@OrangeAxolotyl

look up Charles and Peter Ball .

Look up Mountbatten and the abuse of children in care

They are a sick family

Nothing special about William - if such a power exists - and I doubt it- Charles has it too

What are they waiting for

As far as I know only Parliament can remove prince .
I hope they do .
It will be step one in the whole facade crumbling
No one is a prince

My point is what has actually been proven.
Otherwise it just sounds like Andrew is only one of many in the scheme of things, whereas I think it's important to focus on the crimes and deception he and Ferguson are involved with.
I'm not saying the other things aren't important, but it just distracts from the current issue, iyswim.
I'm not disagreeing with you. I just think we should put Andrew and Ferguson's feet to the flames.

@OrangeAxolotyl

It is not just Andrew. The Windsors will use Andrew as a distraction and hope to paint maybe William as somehow ‘ better’ than the rest. He isn’t he’s was happy to be photographed with Andrew during the Windsors several attempts at rehabilitati g Andrew . They made it known that they rather have Andrew as a neighbour than Harry .
Says it all

They ALL require investigation. They are ALL complicit also in the cover up . They have ALL known about Epstein for over a decade .

Interesting article.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-15235817/toxic-twist-Royal-Lodge-saga.html

It’s paywalled so I’ve created an article link that should work to read it here: https://archive.ph/ahALn

A.N. Wilson argues that ‘What began as a sex scandal has become a row over property. Now it is utterly toxic for the Royal Family.’

Arrgh! I thought his was on AIBU

With a few honourable exceptions this board it royal bootlickers isn’t it ?

Yes, but "using him as a distraction" suggests he's just the fall guy and not that bad.
I think his crimes are heinous and I could barely watch that interview with Virginia Guiffre.
I'm sure you feel the same, @Ukisgaslit . It has to be done according to proof under the law.

PA will hang on for as long as he still has fingernails with which to claw. As will SF. The King, I suspect, is being too soft partly in memory of his mother. If the media hints are accurate William will kick him off as soon as he becomes king. The issue is how much of a viable threat is William to PA now. Hopefully he can force his father’s hand to throw both PA and SF out now. This won’t get forgotten and is only creating more harm to the royal family.

Too true. KC is famously conflict averse.
He will just try to persuade and appeal, however, that doesn't work with people as stupid, arrogant, greedy and entitled as A and SF.
I'm glad William is showing a bit more mettle. Too right he should threaten to get rid of those women's Princess titles.

Far from it. Plenty of republicans here, including those who are not fans of the ‘royal dukedom of Sussex’ as well as the rest of them. Why the fuck should any of them leech like they do - it’s either off us, or off each other, often involving money going back to the slave trade dressed up as ‘Trusts’ and ‘inheritances’ or money grifted on the back of titles, all under a veil of secrecy masquerading as privacy.

You really can’t say one lot of HRHs are fine and others aren’t if one is a republican; it’s the system that’s rotten, especially as Parliament are the real ‘royal bootlickers’.

Anyway, it looks like Frogmore Cottage may be getting even more ‘renovations’ at our expense.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-andrew-royal-lodge-epstein-william-latest-news-b2854246.html

Good points, @TheAutumnCrow

I think the RF are on borrowed time in the 21st century. How long they can string it out depends on if they downsize all the hangers on and deal with improper behaviour or in this case, something much worse asap. Any hesitating or reluctance to address it will be another nail in the RF coffin. William knows this but the older generation are partly living in delusional denial IMO. People say they’re good for tourism, but people come to see the castles and historical stuff, not them themselves and other countries have fabulous tourist industries without having an extended RF.

@TheAutumnCrow

Thank you - I appreciate your comment .

From what I can see the vast majority of threads here are Harry / Meghan bashing . I take your point re Harry still using his titles and I agree with you but overall the balance here is very wrong . And in fact this relentless imbalance helps keep the heat off rest of the Windsors as a result .

More importanly I strongly object to ‘royal issues’ being tucked away on this board.
Yes I’m sure the sycophants are challenged here but the fact is royal issues affect every single aspect of our society . We are draining half a billion annually from the NHS , children services etc and filling the Windsors pockets .

We do not have a mature democracy in the UK as the brave man questioning Charles at a walkabout proves . It was necessary for that man to shout his very legitimate questions because our elected reps are not asking questions . MPs have in the past repeatedly asked for transparency re Windsor finances and have been ignored or fobbed off .
That should give us all pause .

So I believe Windsors should be discussed and their relentless PR challenged on Politics , AIBU , Chat - all of them really .

Hope to see you there

Am I the only one who thinks it's bizarre and quite ghoulish to rely on the rumour that William will sort them all out (his father's death is the catalyst for this)? I don't believe he will myself, it's deflection to let KC off the hook right now.

So the speculation starts. How long will KC live so that W can act to get rid of them all? That's awful, because KC should be doing this himself. OK he's confrontation averse, so are most of us if we are honest, but in our working and home lives there are times when we have to bite the bullet and do it for the greater good.

So KC is sick with cancer. I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but he's doing OK from what I can see and can travel and so on. What is he waiting for? I don't get it. And as for him being sick, we have no idea what type of cancer it is, what stage it's at, how aggressive it is and so on. His mother had cancer for many years and lived to 96. So if KC has the same innings, nothing will happen until 2045 or thereabouts. Think about that one!

I'm increasingly sceptical about William being the hard nosed boss. He isn't, and won't be until his father's demise. It's all a bit of a snowjob to me.

@waitamo I don’t feel it’s ghoulish but then I wasn’t even thinking of KC having cancer. William is simply next in line. There’s no time frame implied.

I’ve known too many people who have died with cancer but equally I’ve known many who have lived on - for many, many happy years - after diagnosis and treatment. Certainly my comment was a ‘when’ William becomes king, in the future of unknown distance… not with a ‘well KC must surely die soon’ meaning.