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Entitled -Andrew Lownie - Yorks

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PinkPanther57 · 28/09/2025 17:30

Anyone reading/read? I’ve always liked Sarah but if even half of the extravagance is true…

Have heard Sarah a lovely person & much maligned. Her self confidence with men is certainly very high (!)

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SummerEve · 28/09/2025 17:37

Never mind much-maligned, her judgement and hunger for cash is appalling.

PinkPanther57 · 28/09/2025 17:40

SummerEve · 28/09/2025 17:37

Never mind much-maligned, her judgement and hunger for cash is appalling.

That seems hard to argue with - am only a few chapters in. No one coming out of it well thus far. It’s amazing both daughters are as seemingly as well adjusted as they are so maybe that points to good parenting (?) amongst the chaos somehow (?)

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EmpressSisi · 28/09/2025 20:48

Reading the book honestly made me see Fergie as a bit of a Katie Price figure. The selfishness, the poor self-esteem, the awful choice in men, the constant hustling and debt, it’s all there!

I always thought she was a good mum, but she actually left six-week-old Eugenie at home while taking 20-month-old Beatrice away on holiday with her. And it wasn’t a one-off either. Holidays always seemed to come first, even on big days like the girls’ first day back at school or taking them to parties and socials.

And then the men… honestly, one walking disaster after another. And she’d plonk the kids right in the middle of it! Inviting them along on family holidays after barely dating the guy, letting the girls sit unclothed on the lap of whichever bloke she was with at the time, it was such a massive safeguarding nightmare, all so she could get her kicks.

She monetised absolutely everything she could, including the girls (as much as was socially acceptable in the ’80s and ’90s with all the Hello! photoshoots). She even used them to get the best possible separation and divorce deal by playing up their “princess of the blood” status and emotionally blackmailing the Queen that her granddaughters couldn’t live like paupers if she got a ‘bad’ deal.

It’s not often I feel sorry for Andrew, but the way she emotionally manipulated him, never letting him move on, interfering in his relationships, keeping him dangling but never actually reconciling, it was a lot. No wonder Philip couldn’t stand her.

PinkPanther57 · 28/09/2025 21:02

EmpressSisi · 28/09/2025 20:48

Reading the book honestly made me see Fergie as a bit of a Katie Price figure. The selfishness, the poor self-esteem, the awful choice in men, the constant hustling and debt, it’s all there!

I always thought she was a good mum, but she actually left six-week-old Eugenie at home while taking 20-month-old Beatrice away on holiday with her. And it wasn’t a one-off either. Holidays always seemed to come first, even on big days like the girls’ first day back at school or taking them to parties and socials.

And then the men… honestly, one walking disaster after another. And she’d plonk the kids right in the middle of it! Inviting them along on family holidays after barely dating the guy, letting the girls sit unclothed on the lap of whichever bloke she was with at the time, it was such a massive safeguarding nightmare, all so she could get her kicks.

She monetised absolutely everything she could, including the girls (as much as was socially acceptable in the ’80s and ’90s with all the Hello! photoshoots). She even used them to get the best possible separation and divorce deal by playing up their “princess of the blood” status and emotionally blackmailing the Queen that her granddaughters couldn’t live like paupers if she got a ‘bad’ deal.

It’s not often I feel sorry for Andrew, but the way she emotionally manipulated him, never letting him move on, interfering in his relationships, keeping him dangling but never actually reconciling, it was a lot. No wonder Philip couldn’t stand her.

How could she assume Tiger Woods would be sexually interested in her etc? The ego seems genuine…& she did seem to have an ability to make ££. A parallel with Katie Price is interesting - both had childhood trauma too. Lady Diana also with the obsessive behaviour around men, etc.

Sarah’s mother, Susan Barrantes, seems to have been as hedonistic & spendthrift as her & her death in a car accident at top speed without a seatbelt again parallels Diana.

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EmpressSisi · 28/09/2025 21:26

PinkPanther57 · 28/09/2025 21:02

How could she assume Tiger Woods would be sexually interested in her etc? The ego seems genuine…& she did seem to have an ability to make ££. A parallel with Katie Price is interesting - both had childhood trauma too. Lady Diana also with the obsessive behaviour around men, etc.

Sarah’s mother, Susan Barrantes, seems to have been as hedonistic & spendthrift as her & her death in a car accident at top speed without a seatbelt again parallels Diana.

And don’t get me started on the whole JFK Jr. thing. She had her staff spying on him and completely lost it when Diana actually met him. And then calling him “Number 9” in her little ranking of lovers 🤢 Honestly, the mind boggles.

PinkPanther57 · 28/09/2025 22:06

EmpressSisi · 28/09/2025 21:26

And don’t get me started on the whole JFK Jr. thing. She had her staff spying on him and completely lost it when Diana actually met him. And then calling him “Number 9” in her little ranking of lovers 🤢 Honestly, the mind boggles.

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I’d forgotten about that. :) Maybe being Royal was some kind of catnip to hot/famous men?

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padronpepper · 28/09/2025 22:09

I’d love to know exactly how much money Andrew and Sarah have extracted from charities, companies etc over the past 40 years. Must run into millions of pounds.
And exactly how much they received from Epstein in particular.

Teado · 28/09/2025 22:13

padronpepper · 28/09/2025 22:09

I’d love to know exactly how much money Andrew and Sarah have extracted from charities, companies etc over the past 40 years. Must run into millions of pounds.
And exactly how much they received from Epstein in particular.

Me too. I’m more interested in this than who Sarah had consensual sex with.

PinkPanther57 · 28/09/2025 22:31

padronpepper · 28/09/2025 22:09

I’d love to know exactly how much money Andrew and Sarah have extracted from charities, companies etc over the past 40 years. Must run into millions of pounds.
And exactly how much they received from Epstein in particular.

There are some numbers in the book re: the deals etc so far but likely tip of iceberg.

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padronpepper · 28/09/2025 22:35

I have read the book.
The sheer waste of public money is astounding.
How did they get away with it for so long?

laundryhamper · 02/10/2025 23:15

Just finished the book & a few thoughts…

  1. Had no idea about the true extent of Andrew’s sex addiction or Sarah’s mad spending. It was staggering. Who ARE all these women who keep queuing up to sleep with him. even knowing how unsavoury he is.

  2. This will sadly be by far the biggest blot on the late Queen’s legacy/reputation. She facilitated his conduct for years. Everyone who knew and wanted to stop him (ambassadors, politicians, senior military, the police - surely also the intelligence services, although Lownie strangely doesn’t seem to talk about those at all) were all trumped by what the Queen wanted.

  3. Peter Morgan must be wishing he hadn’t wrapped the Crown where he did because this tragic dynamic all seems under unexplored in his series.

  4. Fascinating about the truth behind the Maitlis interview - THAT has never come out before.

  5. The daughters - I kept wondering what must they be thinking. Imagine reading, or hearing, these hideous things that your father has done. Yet they still appear to be loyal to both their parents. Are they in denial or do they recognise that these things happened?
    Their chances of any future royal role are surely scuppered now, if it’s true they too they have participated in the various York scams and grifting.

  6. In all the press coverage of William’s new house on the Windsor estate nobody really talked about how very close it is to Royal Lodge. The second William takes over we are going to see an army of surveyors hurtling round the corner to Royal Lodge to declare Andrew in breach of his lease for inadequate maintenance and he will be out.

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