Thomas markle

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Meghans dad has had two strokes and a heart attack. He is 80 so probable does not have much time left. It shows Meghan in a very poor light (again) as she has not contacted him at all so the chances of a reconciliation are slim. He has never seen his grandchildren. Whatever you think of Meghan and I don t particularly like her, I think this very sad and she may regret it. How hard is it to make a phone call?

Apart from Harry and Meghan have done similar to Harry’s family. But I agree a father behaving in such a way to a child is reprehensible.

I think it's because he is fat, scruffy and no longer useful. An embarrassment that clashes with her image

Did Doria have a fondness for weed?

Ive always felt (no proof) that she used him to appear a family person BUT....that he really wasn't a big part of her life as opposed to the official story of her using him then dumping him while they were close if that makes sense

She talked him up is what I mean, used every possible story & Experiance to create a narrative of closeness that didn't really exist as she was surrounded by people who had family's & support & wanted to break into the social media/blogging sphere which at the time was verrrry "love my family"/"spending time with my family" & she didn't have that

I don't rate her mum at all to be honest she left her child with her ex because he won the lotto & had a semi-well known job not because he had a good history of raising kids, a reliable income, stable home life. But I think your mum is completely different pain/desire relationship wise then your dad

I don’t really like Meghan Markle, but what I’ve seen of her family, in terms of her stepbrother and sister, they have a lot to say for themselves.
I feel sorry for her dad. He appears to have been very close to her for nearly four decades. He’s worked hard, provided for her, she regularly wrote about how close their bond was.
I think he was set up with those early pap shots. He’s realised he hadn’t come across as well presented, and I think in a cack-handed way he’s wanted to portray himself in a more flattering light. He then handed his daughter and her fiancé a nice little out. There is no way she wanted him walking her up the aisle when she could do half of it on her own, and half with the future King.
Why weren’t more of her family there when she had guests she’d never met?
Considering what has happened since, with all the Backgrid images hiking and standing around in car parks, it’s hypocrisy at its finest.
If they had a really, really decent PR team who provided consistency, one of the best ways of scoring brownie points would be to have a daughter and dad reunion. But I don’t think an old, overweight, pensioner living in reduced circumstances fits the optics.
Thomas hasn’t always thought things through. Some of his interviews have been toe-curling, but I do feel sad for him.

I Don't feel sad for him. he made his bed. she must have good reason for going NC.

So Tom M won the lottery and Doria transferred full care of Megan to him. Tom paid for private schools for Megan and introduced her to acting and production, lighting, angles and provided a springboard into the entertainment industry.

Meanwhile Doria was a flight attendant /travel agent, and brought Megs on a trip to Bucks palace.

Megs grasped her way into the Royal circle.

Is she similar to Melania Trump? Played a tactical game with a spoilt rich boy, laughs at his jokes, tells him everything he wants to hear, strokes his ego and let's him do whatever he wants to do.

Will there be a Sussex crypto coin to boost their wealth, what next?

While I don’t disagree @Samcro they have effectively gone no contact with both sides but strangely enough seemingly only (from Harry’s recent bbc interview) want reconciliation with the Rich royal side.

I’m just a tad cynical as to why. And I don’t think The Sussexes have behaved any better in relation to Harry’s family than Thomas Markle.

We don't know anything about what goes on behind the scenes, (nor do most of us care), but as this pair of whingers are incommunicado with BOTH their families it's quite annoying that they keep droning on about love and family blah blah. That's one of the reasons they get so much flak (and no, it's not hate before the usual crap starts).

I agree with this comment.
In general I think you can’t judge someone else’s relationships and families are complicated.
But in this case I think it’s two narcissists who’ve come together and cut themselves off from almost every family member for not pandering to their ideas.

In their defence, they both come from dysfunctional families, neither benefitted from emotionally intelligent, stable parenting. Megan is Doria s only child, she doesn't have to share her with anyone. Harry is the only son in law. They produce the only grandchildren, that will keep their egos intact.

I wonder what Tom Markle's relationship is like with his son and other daughter? Has he moved to Cebu, Philippines seeking a cheaper life?

Family estrangement is very common in the USA. He seems to have shuffled off quietly to a more affordable part of the world, to live out his final years quietly. Megan isn't his only child, she is not responsible for him.

The son is living there with him he was on Talk Tv last week.

Very well sad. Families are accidents of birth. Friends are deliberate

Same applies with the Charles-Harry relationship then I guess. Don't feel sad for Harry. He made his bed. Charles must have his reasons for going NC.

I just read online, Tom junior, MMs half brother is writing a tell all book, setting (his version of) the story straight about her childhood and their family.

Ooo ho ho ho 😅😅, MM is going to get her arse handed to her on a plate. They really are the gossip gift, that keeps on giving.

The Markle side of her family have shown themselves to be toxic, I totally understand why she cut them off, they are loathsome.

But, it does make you wonder if she was lying all the time she was writing glowingly about her dad, it doesn't make sense, was she doing it for clicks, was it a public finger to Doria who she was maybe estranged from at the time, was it ever a genuine loving father / daughter relationship?.

Why did Harry not meet his future father in law? that has to be one of the biggest red flags in any relationship.

Why did she get her friends to disclose the private letter she sent to him, the letter she hoped he might release to the public, he clearly fell into the trap when he responded, 6 or so months later, to contradict what 'the friends' claimed was in the letter. Meghan used her friends to trap and manipulated her father into releasing extracts of the letter, her father had not said a word about it until then, and then she went to court about it.

Her behaviour towards her father has been as manipulative and loathsome as her family, if not more so, as she had a lot of power at that time.

This.
Even before all the shenanigans with the media which was very ill advised on Thomas Markle’s part, Harry hadn’t met him which I think was odd.

I think he was very naive, foolish and greedy to allow himself to be sucked in by the media (as far as I remember, a journalist moved in next door to him and TM ending up trusting him).

But, I can't help but feel sorry for him. It does seem as though MM is one of those people who has no problem with cutting people out of her life. The fact that the couple (and their children) are now estranged from both sides of the family (except Doria) is sad.

Lots of things can happen in families.

None of my family speak to each other anymore. Me and my mum dont talk. Me and my brother dont talk. My mum and my brother dont talk.

We all grew up in abusive household and we just dont know how to love each other.

Both summarised it perfectly for me.

I’m sorry that your family is like that.
But Meghan Markle praised her Dad, she got on with both Thomas and Doria.
Why then had Harry not been introduced to him ?
I think it’s sad that Archie and Lilibet won’t know their grandads, their uncle and his wife and first cousins.

When did TM release the private letters? Was it before or after the engagement, I don't think it was after they got married was it ?

I can't remember the timeline. Was that when Meghan was found to have lied about it? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Whilst I am deeply unimpressed by most of what we know about Meghan & Harry's behaviour in recent years (especially the public comments & interviews), I can actually cut her some slack re her father.
None of us knows the full story, and there is no obligation to stay in touch with people just because they're "family" or "old".

She hasnt praised her dad. In the letter that she sent her dad, she said that she was very disaplointed in his actions. She cut him off because of his actions.