Why do Heritage Foundation care about Harry?

[JoyousGreyOrca]

The Heritage Foundation are a far right US organisation usually more focussed on abortion and birth control bans, stoking culture wars, and supporting far right figures. So why should they care about Prince Harry's visa?

I should add I do not care about Prince Harry, he is a rich man who will be fine.

But the Heritage Foundations involvement seems to stem from a desire to use Harry as a test case to get access to what are usually private documents. As I see it, if the Heritage Foundation can get public access to Harrys visa documents, it sets a precedent that allows them through the courts to access anyone's visas documents. This can be used to try and deport anyone political who threatens the political vision of the Heritage Foundation.

There are plenty of civil rights lawyers, political activists, and prominent human rights activists who may at some time have smoked weed in college or other minor infractions. Getting access to these individuals visa applications may provide an opening to deport these individuals.

Disagree or have another theory? Because I do not think it is a coincidence that an organisation as politically astute as the Heritage Foundation is trying to get access to Harrys visa. This is what they do, find a wedge issue to help them meet their political aims.

It does seem to be more about politics and legal precedent than Harry himself. He is just a useful idiot with a high profile and lots of evidence in the public domain.

I'm not sure he is the useful idiot here, as he's not involved in the case. Rather the people cheerleading a Far Right organisation who want to be able to access people's private information just because they would love to see Harry deported from the US, presumably forcing him back into the not so loving arms of the RF and away from the evil clutches of his wife and children.

@Tomatotater it is why they have used Harry. They know a decent group of people would support this, who would not support them if they were trying to get access to the visa documents of a Human Rights activist and calling for their deportation.

The Heritage Foundation have supported parents of children declared brain dead in the UK, as a way to try and get a court ruling that could then be used to attack abortion. They are very good at strategy and looking long term. They are not to be under estimated.

I meant useful idiot in terms of someone who is high profile and who has written about drug use in public documents making it seem fairly easy to prove.

Personally I think they are picking on him for their own ends. I don't agree with what they are doing, but I realise that Harry made it easy for them whereas other celebrities are probably more discreet.

Actually @JoyousGreyOrca I tend to agree with you. There is a tendency (even on some boards on here and I'm not talking about the RF one) to applaud some really dubious people and organisations because they have a point of agreement on one thing. I much dislike everything I've heard/read about the Heritage Foundation and yes, I do think they're dangerous, especially now.

My caveat is though that he was very, very foolish to have talked explicitly about his drug use in Spare considering he was living in the US and may not have disclosed it on his visa application. I agree that he will be OK whatever but others might not be.

A slight aside- many years ago I knew someone who was refused a visa to the US where he planned to attend a family wedding. Why? Because he'd been a member of the British Communist Party as a teenager in the early 1930s and declared it on his application. He took the view that he wasn't ashamed and lying was wrong. Lovely man, actually.

There is a very famous story about, I think, Orson Wells or maybe Peter Ustinov, who answered the question Do you intend to overthrow the US government? With 'sole purpose of visit' and was denied entry.

Everyone knows it's about politics. The issue is that Harry is hypocritical and annoying. He's called freedom of speech "bonkers", yet he's taking advantage of it to talk about his history in his books and interviews, while knowing that his visa application is protected and confidential.

His connection with the Aspen Institute is worrying. Now there is the issue of Archewell donations and Ashley Biden.

People would have more sympathy for him if he kept his mouth shut and stayed away from politics and American rights.

@Uricon2 I agree Harry was foolish to talk about his drug use.
But I do think the Heritage Foundation were probably just keeping their eye out for a case to challenge through the courts.
That it is Harry is almost a coincidence,

I mean, the man is an absolute idiot in so many ways, entitled, arrogant and a bit thick ( I don't think he is an outlier in his family in this) He was foolish to talk about his drug use and he was foolish to complain about the second amendment in the US with regards to free speech. Frankly, I would like the Americans to use a bit more free speech when it comes to challenging Harry about him using Royal titles, entitlement and birthright. he seems to want to live in a world where he is allowed to exist as a member of the Royal Family and just take all the benefits without paying any price whatsoever. I think William is the same, and I think both of them will become unstuck- Harry when he finds himself with no viable income, having to budget because he only has finite ( large) resources to live on, and William when he picks and chooses what he does to such an extent that he is hardly seen, and the press start to kick off. I think both of them have been done a disservice by the RF by not instilling them with a sense of duty in the way of the older Royals ( even though they also took/take the piss)
But it seems that people who automatically hate Harry for everything are very quick to side with some pretty unsavoury people on the basis that they are doing things to annoy Harry- The Heritage Foundation, Donald Trump, Samantha Markle (who is estranged from all her children herself and seems like a vile creature). If he was ignored by all the people who hope he would go away and live quietly, he would have no choice but to go away and live quietly. many of them want something else, which is to be proved right- that 'Fun' Harry was the real Harry, and he just needs rescuing from the clutches of his evil wife. She may be evil, but he is a grown man. He has slagged off his family far more than she has.

I do think it has highlighted the lack of accountability should discrepancies occur or believed to have. There should be a way to report when it's believed an unlawful act has taken place. In this case it's Harry but the next example could be more controversial. I don't believe the heritage foundation should be allowed the documents but there should be an independent authority to review that protocols are dealt with fairly not the agency themselves.

Unfortunately for Harry the current Administration aren't exactly hot in keeping information confidential.

Yes. Cheerleading the Heritage Society is a stupid thing to do.

The US has The Heritage Society to thank for Project 2025 - which is currently being implemented by Trump and his cohorts.

I read somewhere that The UK Henry Jackson Society (another very right wing think tank) has links to the Heritage Society.

From watching what is happening in the US I have come to think the Heritage Society will win this and Harry’s visa info will be made public. So much depends on whether the judicial branch of govt stands firm - not just in this case but in many others.

There are the courts. They are independent. A judge has already examined Harrys visa documents himself, and said there is no case to answer. I tend to believe the Judge.

I do not think the Heritage Foundation will win this. But they will keep looking for another case they can use to establish the precedent of visa documentation being made public.

I hate the way people get pulled into Harry versus the Heritage Foundation, without them understanding what is at stake here.

Why do you care that the heritage foundation care about Harry?

Please GET A LIFE 😂😂😂

What type of person could possibly write such a post?

Do you work? Do you love following the RF? What other interests do you have? I’m so curious!!!

@Quitelikeit Did you understand my post? It is not about Harry.

Perhaps you've shown yourself to be a person who doesn't quite understand the political and policy issues at the heart of this? It's not really about Harry or the royal family.

You seem depressingly uninformed. Whatever 'other interests' you have, they don't seem to include world affairs, politics or current events.

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If it’s not about Harry then leave his name out of it

people seem to enjoy crucifying him

I don’t think anyone thinks it’s really about Harry. If they win this then it creates a precedent for the applications that they actually want to know about and as you say it’s about scoring points against the previous administration and humiliating / deporting people they don’t like. (the useful idiot)

Yes. They are not going to achieve it with Harry. But it is not beyond the possibilities they could achieve it with someone else.

@JoyousGreyOrca is raising a valid point about Harry being used as a stalking horse test case around visas by ultra conservatives, not having a go at him.

The point is that the Heritage Foundation is using Harry. Literally nothing to do with anyone on this thread crucifying him. If you have a complaint, I would suggest you take it up with them, in fact, I'd encourage you to. The more people who push back, the better.

FFS