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If it's true that we are paying the PoW 1.5 million a year rent for Dartmoor prison...

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CurlewKate · 03/11/2024 09:23

...among many other things, do you think that's OK? If so, why?

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BananaNirvana · 04/11/2024 18:33

Baital · 04/11/2024 16:48

I quite agree.

They are neither exceptionally awful or amazingly good.

But blaming them individually for the problems we face as a society is ridiculous.

We get the government we deserve (collective 'we'). And the government, our elected representatives, allow whatever the RF do. They don't have to.

I would say quite a few of them are exceptionally awful!

FluentOP · 04/11/2024 18:46

They actually love killing animals. Prince Philip was president of WWF even though he loved killing tigers. Charles and Camilla love watching foxes being torn to pieces. In my opinion, psychopathic tendencies . These people are cruel and greedy.

notanothernamechange24 · 04/11/2024 18:53

BustingBaoBun · 03/11/2024 11:41

“Over 87% of all duchy-let properties are rated E or above. The remainder are either awaiting scheduled improvement works or are exempted under UK legislation.”

Well, they would say that wouldn'tt they....

According to some tenants, that's not quite the case.

That's because the vast majority of them are conservation zones though. Many of them prevent them being brought up to standard.

I personally know of one Dutchy let farm with single glazed windows. the battle to get them re glazed with double glazed panes that look like single has been going on years. The Dutchy are ready to do the work but the national park won't allow it because it's not the original 🙄

CathyorClaire · 04/11/2024 20:25

It may be cheaper and have less of an impact to travel in a helicopter than via road or train where he’d need accompanying security, police escort etc.

Charles uses choppers like buses. Always has and yes, I can provide a recent example:

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/king-charles-helicopter-africa-centre-southwark-climate-change/

Hypocritical arse.

I suppose a £52k spend (don't ask me how) on a 500 mile train trip might be considered to mitigate that carbon footprint a bit in some quarters though.

https://www.newsweek.com/king-charles-train-royal-helicopter-costs-1929392

Edited to quote 😀

CathyorClaire · 04/11/2024 20:31

FluentOP · 04/11/2024 18:46

They actually love killing animals. Prince Philip was president of WWF even though he loved killing tigers. Charles and Camilla love watching foxes being torn to pieces. In my opinion, psychopathic tendencies . These people are cruel and greedy.

Entirely agree.

Stalking and shooting deer as opposed to engaging a professional, respectful and humane culling service also springs to mind.

Baital · 04/11/2024 21:13

FluentOP · 04/11/2024 18:46

They actually love killing animals. Prince Philip was president of WWF even though he loved killing tigers. Charles and Camilla love watching foxes being torn to pieces. In my opinion, psychopathic tendencies . These people are cruel and greedy.

If so I grew up surrounded by psychopaths. In a rural farming community, attending the local comp, nothing posh. Just about everyone was pro fox hunting, a lot of my friends had ponies (it is fairly affordable in rural areas, especially the children of farmers) and hunted.

Personally I was anti, and was/am glad it was banned.

But no, it isn't a sign of psychopathic tendencies.

CathyorClaire · 04/11/2024 21:30

Baital · 04/11/2024 21:13

If so I grew up surrounded by psychopaths. In a rural farming community, attending the local comp, nothing posh. Just about everyone was pro fox hunting, a lot of my friends had ponies (it is fairly affordable in rural areas, especially the children of farmers) and hunted.

Personally I was anti, and was/am glad it was banned.

But no, it isn't a sign of psychopathic tendencies.

But no, it isn't a sign of psychopathic tendencies.

The pervasive royal fascination with killing and breeding to kill is still a bit weird and disturbing though. All the more in the face of changing public sensibilities.

It would be an awfully easy PR win to eschew it, yet they don't...

Baital · 04/11/2024 21:39

Well, breeding to kill sums up the meat industry, and the mass market section of the industry (the majority) has some fairly unpleasant practices.

Maggispice · 05/11/2024 03:35

BananaNirvana · 04/11/2024 16:38

But WHY is he seen as a pioneer in environmental matters! This absolute garbage is repeated again and again with no evidence to back it up - his carbon footprint must be horrific. And I’m not just talking about his international travel but the fact he hops about the country in a fucking helicopter 🙄. He has no right to be seen as an environmentalist. It’s a fucking nonsense.

That's why he's seen as promoting the green agenda and sustainability. Similar to Camilla championing antibullying. Lots of reports about her using her media contacts to bully Meghan as they bullied Diana.
William asking others to provide funds to end homelessness when most of the land belongs to him. Deflection.

FluentOP · 05/11/2024 09:58

CathyorClaire · 04/11/2024 21:30

But no, it isn't a sign of psychopathic tendencies.

The pervasive royal fascination with killing and breeding to kill is still a bit weird and disturbing though. All the more in the face of changing public sensibilities.

It would be an awfully easy PR win to eschew it, yet they don't...

Charles kept lobbying Prime Minister, Tony Blair to get the fox hunting ban overturned. He said that “fox hunting is romantic “ : what a weird thing to say. It didn’t put Mrs Parker Bowles off though; says a lot about her 😱.

CathyorClaire · 05/11/2024 10:02

Baital · 04/11/2024 21:39

Well, breeding to kill sums up the meat industry, and the mass market section of the industry (the majority) has some fairly unpleasant practices.

TBF We don't tend to hear of representatives of the meat industry striding round the moors blasting away at anything that takes wing.

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kiraric · 07/07/2025 14:12

It's interesting to see what a bit of media and public pressure can achieve. Just a shame they didn't do this off their own bat as it was clearly entirely possible

www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2025/07/06/prince-william-lifeboat-school-fields-village-halls/

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/07/2025 10:26

EdithWeston · 03/11/2024 10:16

Did they also state which, if any, of the permitted exemptions (available to all landlords) applied?
Or are they putting two things together (the rating, and the policy) and hoping people will add 2 and 2 to make 5?
Or are they explicitly accusing them of acting illegally?

If these properties fall under any of the exemptions, did they examine whether the exemptions had been properly applied?

You're bringing common sense into it again, EdithWeston, but as ever the devil will be in the detail - and one of them is to identify the exact status of the Duchy which seems to change according to what suits the owners

As usual, I suspect it'll be a case of a fuss being made, those making it being sbamboozled with yet another set of "legal complications" and then waiting for attention to move onto something else

CathyorClaire · 08/07/2025 10:31

I don't think waiving all of £10K a year is going to do much for his public image especially when he's still skimming tens of thousands from the government.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/07/2025 10:44

CathyorClaire · 08/07/2025 10:31

I don't think waiving all of £10K a year is going to do much for his public image especially when he's still skimming tens of thousands from the government.

Very true, Cathy, but it enables a headline around "how generous William's being" , and that seems to be tthe real priority Hmm

CathyorClaire · 08/07/2025 11:08

Quite, Puzzled

Shades of C diverting those obscene wind farm profits to 'the wider public good' while still trousering an additional £45m himself but on a far smaller scale.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/07/2025 11:50

Yes, the windfarms were a classic, @CathyorClaire; yet another example of "look what they're giving us" when the details are rather more nuanced than that

It works for some though ...

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