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Royal Family & riots

110 replies

bitesthedust · 09/08/2024 07:40

Has KC or anyone from the RF issue any statements about the recent riots?

If not, why not?

Genuine question.

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balletflats · 09/08/2024 07:46

Lemme just spark up my psychic connection with King Charles and I will see what is going on in there... mhmmm, well, it seems that he is more concerned with his boiled egg this morning, so that might be the answer. Perhaps he will feel inclined to issue a statement, "these riots are bad and the rioters are bad people, hth" later on in the day.

bitesthedust · 09/08/2024 07:51

@balletflats
big fail

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IcedPurple · 09/08/2024 07:59

I imagine they will have been advised against wading into such contentious current events.

Genuine answer.

MrsStottlemeyer · 09/08/2024 08:00

Why would they? What good would it do?

LunaNorth · 09/08/2024 08:02

There was an article about this somewhere on the internet the other day.

I think he made a fairly neutral ‘heart goes out to those affected, he’s being briefed daily’ type of comment, and the article explained that’s all he’s allowed to do as a politically neutral head of state.

HeadacheEarthquake · 09/08/2024 08:03

Because it doesn't affect them and they likely don't give a flying fuck

Drogdab · 09/08/2024 08:08

they are on holiday

DramaLlamaBangBang · 09/08/2024 08:17

LunaNorth · 09/08/2024 08:02

There was an article about this somewhere on the internet the other day.

I think he made a fairly neutral ‘heart goes out to those affected, he’s being briefed daily’ type of comment, and the article explained that’s all he’s allowed to do as a politically neutral head of state.

Yes I think this would count as ' political interference' although nobody says what ' political side' is for the riots. Things like this and the proroguing of Parliament and many serious National issues just goes to show how useless it is having them as Heads of State. They don't do anything at all. They cant intervene in serious disagreements, cannot mediate, and cant even make a statement about racism being wrong. They are merely decorative.

TeenToTwenties · 09/08/2024 08:18

Surely he would only make a statement if the government asked him to.

bitesthedust · 09/08/2024 08:23

But the riots are beyond politics

Also, if the statement below is correct, sure they should have being more vocal rather than saying their heart go out to the victms etc?

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KingOfPoundbury · 09/08/2024 08:25

Riots? Let them eat cake, I say.

Note: Duchy Originals are 'exceedinly good cakes' even if one says it one's self.

hepsitemiz · 09/08/2024 08:26

"They cant intervene in serious disagreements, cannot mediate, and cant even make a statement about racism being wrong"

Not quite right, Drama. I think the late Queen's statement after the infamous Oprah interview said something along the lines of "the issues raised, particularly those around racism, are very concerning" (not a word for word quote).

ssd · 09/08/2024 08:29

Drogdab · 09/08/2024 08:08

they are on holiday

Aye permanently

balletflats · 09/08/2024 08:34

bitesthedust · 09/08/2024 07:51

@balletflats
big fail

Ooh, guess your knickers are wedgy this morning.

LadyKenya · 09/08/2024 08:36

He should have said something. It is poor that he remains silent, imo.

TeenToTwenties · 09/08/2024 08:48

If the government ask him to intervene it implies they don't have a handle on the situation. It's not quite that bad at the moment.

bitesthedust · 09/08/2024 08:55

balletflats · 09/08/2024 08:34

Ooh, guess your knickers are wedgy this morning.

great skills
keep it up!
hope it take you places:)

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EdithWeston · 09/08/2024 10:03

They would only comment on a live and politically-charged issue if the Government of the day wished them to. Whether that's riots, other disturbances, or whatever.

I think you're perhaps getting muddled up with statements in the wake of disasters or acts of terrorism, and those usually focus on condolences for those affected, praise for emergency services and (possibly later, eg in Christmas message) on communities coming together.

I think the Prime Minister has made a good judgement call in following the 2011 precedent.

And I note that BBC is reporting that criticism for KC on this stems from the anti-monarchy group Republic. Balanced by commentary from the historian and Blair crony Seldon:

"Now is not the right time for the King to become involved.
"He is head of state, and it’s appropriate that while the crisis is going on, the head of government, the prime minister, handles the crisis management and says what is needed to be said.
"The time for the King to speak, if at all, is when everything has calmed down again. The issues that have led the riots are not going to go away quickly. We need to hear his considered thoughts then about societal harmony,"

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 10:38

“Yet, although the UK authorities in theory understand these threats – in 2021, the head of MI5, Ken McCallum, described far-right extremism as the greatest domestic terror threat facing Britain – the fundamental technological issues have not been addressed.”

https://www.theguardian.com/media/article/2024/aug/03/a-polarisation-engine-how-social-media-has-created-a-perfect-storm-for-uks-far-right-riots

The riots were an example of domestic terrorism and as such should have been condemned by the HOS. It is not acceptable that he shies away from this on any level.

‘A polarisation engine’: how social media has created a ‘perfect storm’ for UK’s far-right riots

Algorithms that send the most outrageous comments viral and a chain reaction of anger and disinformation made the riots that followed the Southport killings inevitable

https://www.theguardian.com/media/article/2024/aug/03/a-polarisation-engine-how-social-media-has-created-a-perfect-storm-for-uks-far-right-riots

DramaLlamaBangBang · 09/08/2024 10:56

hepsitemiz · 09/08/2024 08:26

"They cant intervene in serious disagreements, cannot mediate, and cant even make a statement about racism being wrong"

Not quite right, Drama. I think the late Queen's statement after the infamous Oprah interview said something along the lines of "the issues raised, particularly those around racism, are very concerning" (not a word for word quote).

That was about their own racism, and how not racist they are. Their main purpose is to ensure the continuation of the Monarchy, and that is part of it.

OlympicsFanGirl · 09/08/2024 11:03

What's been reported

King not paying visits yet to riot-hit areas www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj08430yervo

comeondover · 09/08/2024 12:03

@MrsStottlemeyer hello there. Wasn't expecting to see you on MN. Hope you don't mind me saying I have something of a crush on your husband. I gather things are often turbulent between you, so if you ever feel like throwing him out permanently, I'd be happy to take him in. I can even overlook the moustache.

Rosiecheeksandacoldnose · 09/08/2024 12:35

DramaLlamaBangBang · 09/08/2024 08:17

Yes I think this would count as ' political interference' although nobody says what ' political side' is for the riots. Things like this and the proroguing of Parliament and many serious National issues just goes to show how useless it is having them as Heads of State. They don't do anything at all. They cant intervene in serious disagreements, cannot mediate, and cant even make a statement about racism being wrong. They are merely decorative.

Being the HOS should not be downgraded to a non political stance when it comes to domestic terrorism.

BemusedAmerican · 09/08/2024 12:37

From an American perspective, this is an intriguing thread. Prince William made a balanced statement deploring the Gaza situation and stating that he hoped there would be peace, and posters on here were furious that he made a political comment.

Now people are complaining that the King hasn't commented. So if KC made a statement to the effect that everyone needs to stop the violence, sit down and talk, people aren't going to tell him to butt out?

heldinadream · 09/08/2024 12:43

comeondover · 09/08/2024 12:03

@MrsStottlemeyer hello there. Wasn't expecting to see you on MN. Hope you don't mind me saying I have something of a crush on your husband. I gather things are often turbulent between you, so if you ever feel like throwing him out permanently, I'd be happy to take him in. I can even overlook the moustache.

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Royal Family & riots