REUTERS: Only a minority of Britons under 50 support the monarchy

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The chart below, along with the unprecedented level of social media (and even royalty!) mocking around Katespiracy and Katephotogate, could send a chill down the RF's spine.

Whilst 70% of those aged 65+ and 50% of the 50-64 (the demographic on MN?) support the monarchy, this drops to 30% among the 25-49 and ONLY 19% among the 18-24s - YouGov Jan 24 data.

Some will say "that's nowt new!" But with TikTok, X and other SM having unprecedented reach (far more than mainstream media) and cultivating literally thousands of GenZ and Millennial mini-influencers, and with the RF in its current state of turmoil (some of it illness-related, some not, incl. Prince William being largely MIA, the RF's reluctance to deal with Prince Andrew and his grifting ex-wife, Rose Hanbury and extra child (!!) rumours, the casting-out and continued vilification of M&H, the embarrassment that is uncle Gary, etc etc), are comparisons to a decade ago going to be helpful in predicting what this means for the RF in the future? I doubt it.

We all know the billionaire RF continue to sustain their taxpayer and IHT exemption-funded luxury lives thanks to the public's goodwill, hence they employ loads of professional PR people to do their comms. But if there's anything recent events have shown, KP in particular suck at it, with the KP comms team the subject of derision and ridicule around the globe.

It's easy to say "they've weathered worse", but the past isn't a guarantor of the future. I'm sure Boris Johnson also thought he could lie to the public forever... until one day, the tide turned. Not saying this is an identical situation, but the recent lies emanating from KP (I'm sorry, issuing a fake 'proof of life' photo is equivalent to telling a lie) are part of a culture of secrecy and public manipulation.

And consider this: last August, the above numbers were:
80% of those aged 65+ and 67% of the 50-64s support the monarchy, versus 56% among the 25-49s and 37% among the 18-24s. So a drop of 26pp (percentage points) for the 25-49s, and 18pp for the 18-24s.

And who's to say what the numbers will be post-Katephotogate?

https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/uk-monarchy-suffers-an-impairment-its-goodwill-2024-03-13/

It’s not what we mean.

I've got zero interest in debating M&H tbh.

Whose 'we'? Anyway, I'm not interested, sorry. M&H debates are not my thing.

@AliceOlive

Of course it happened!
He was a barrister - you posted the link yourself .
I was under the impression that you thought the blank piece of paper was the ONLY incident .
There were many many people arrested for peacefully protesting or shouting a phrase eg ‘who elected him ‘
It was bloody dystopian

Read the Liberty link if you are genuinely interested

We is the two people you were conversing with here. Me and maturing cheese ball.

I have zero interest either because it’s obvious and if you don’t know about it you won’t have any insight into it.

He was not arrested though.

He was threatened with arrest !

read the liberty link if your interest is genuine

I don't love Harry and Meghan at all. I do however think they have been ridiculously criticised beyond measure and I admire Harry for making that break

The post above said there was video of a man being arrested with a blank piece of paper. Is there video of this on the liberty link?

And 65 were arrested in the morning of the coronation alone !

Ok I get it @AliceOlive

Your interest is not genuine

With blank pieces of paper?!

I’m interested but just so confused? I wanted to see the actual video described. I watched the other one but he never got arrested so that can’t be the same thing.

I have seen footage yes. He's apprehended by three officers for carrying a blank piece of paper. He argues with them

This guy?

Including these people
From the Financial Times article

<span class="italic">Three volunteers from Westminster council, who were supporting a women’s safety initiative in central London late at night by handing out bottled water and rape alarms, were also among those arrested</span>

If only the revolutionary left showed such concern about the police overreach against the far greater numbers of gender critical women - currently being treated as terrorists by the Royal College of Policing. Yet they don't. And I doubt Norman Baker cited above would be able to explain what his political party thinks a woman is without having to write another book. Hard to take anyone seriously on their cries for free speech, knowing they would deny it to everyone, and certainly would deny it to those who disagree with them. Prince Harry and his friends at the Aspen Institute like Katie Couric don't care about freedom of speech either, their passion project is to shut it down for all but the select few.

You are splitting hairs. Threatened with arrest is not arrested but it is worrying and shocking for police to threaten this
It happens in Russia
It should not happen here

It's on YouTube... the footage
Google Not My King Police threaten to arrest barrister. It lasts 1.57s. my mobile won't let me link it and I'm not at my laptop

No one was arrested for holding up a blank piece of paper as written above then?

@Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar - brilliant post. Glove punch.

Folks, some posters on the RF boards seem to have one mission in life, one purpose: to make everything, absolutely everything concerning the RF, about M&H. RF thread derailing 101.

Nice try, folks!

Most of us here are unbaitable.

Back to our knitting:

I've been hugely interested by the journeys @Roussette , @Reddog1 , @mummymeister and others have shared, of how learning more about the RF made them switch to wanting significant change to the status quo, i.e. some form of republicanism.

And others posting about the lack of freedom of speech and right to protest re the RF - simply shocking and unacceptable... and frankly reminiscent of repressive totalitarianism.

We're not yet at the stage of people disappearing and being bumped off for protesting in support of a republic, but it's beginning to feel close...

Why is the establishment so threatened by the prospect? Of course, change frightens, but we do have European countries that have managed to disentangle their RFs from public governance, why can't the UK?

We're one step away

www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-war-invasion-protests-police-arrest-activists-holding-blank-signs-paper-1687603

Splitting hairs! 🤯

It is one step away from Russia indeed.

This 👏

This thread has been an interesting read, and the last few weeks have been highly entertaining

This is what is absolutely mind blowing, that so many support of free speech based on whether they like what you are saying or not. Otherwise they will do anything possible to stop you from speaking at all, permanently.

And then defend conjecture, inaccuracy, opinion, outright falsehoods if it suits.

It isn’t about Harry at all. He’s toothless. No one is truly concerned that he thinks free speech is bonkers.