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The royal family

PH litigation against Mirror group settled

128 replies

Mumsnut · 09/02/2024 13:15

Lots more damages, and I think they have picked up his costs

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Janiie · 10/02/2024 14:55

TallerSally · 10/02/2024 14:31

Pasty Piers’ supposed Harry put-down, which I have no doubt he spent weeks slaving over, was not only feeble, it was also logically flawed. How can Harry as a member of the royal family, violate his own privacy?

Surely if he’s just telling his own family’s story, he’s not violating his own family’s privacy, duh?

But I know this topic gets a lot of people hyperventilating, so deep breaths y’all!

Surely Thomas Markle was just telling his own story 'duh'?

Bet theyll be lots of yeah but nos incoming...

I'm not hyperventilating y'all.

skullbabe · 10/02/2024 15:06

@TallerSally Piers’ statement addresses something that was not the topic of the case and provides handy distractors for the actual case at hand which is…….the use of illegal practices to obtain information about people in the public eye. So now you see the pivot with people discussing Harry and privacy and not that MGN and Piers were found culpable in wrongdoing.

TallerSally · 10/02/2024 15:14

skullbabe · 10/02/2024 15:06

@TallerSally Piers’ statement addresses something that was not the topic of the case and provides handy distractors for the actual case at hand which is…….the use of illegal practices to obtain information about people in the public eye. So now you see the pivot with people discussing Harry and privacy and not that MGN and Piers were found culpable in wrongdoing.

I fully agree with you. Pasty Piers is constantly and, quite frankly, desperately trying to draw a parallel between phone hacking and celebrities sharing details of their lives, as if the latter justified the former.

He only fools those who are not paying attention.

Just like his assertions that Harry’s counterattacks against him are evidence of Harry attempting to destroy the monarchy. Go easy on the overbearing vanity Pasty Piers!

We know you’re likely on Camilla‘s payroll, and may have Kompromat against various royal family members, but when they’ll be ready to come for you, they will come for you!

Janiie · 10/02/2024 16:05

'I fully agree with you. Pasty Piers is constantly and, quite frankly, desperately trying to draw a parallel between phone hacking and celebrities sharing details of their lives, as if the latter justified the former.'

I doubt he's drawing parallels or justifying anything merely pointing out when it comes to privacy breaching Good King Harold should perhaps look in the mirror.

@TallerSally can you clarify what you meant earlier, you think as Harry is related to the rf he can blab to the media about personal and private matters? In which case you must surely agree Thomans Markle was fine to blab to, no?

wildernesssw · 10/02/2024 16:41

I posted on page 1 of this thread saying I am glad the media was held to account. No 'pivot'

I am also interested in @TallerSally 's comment about family members being entitled to publicise private details of other members of their family.

skullbabe · 10/02/2024 16:55

People are free to talk about their own histories with their families - regardless of the family.

That - however- is not the focus of the judgement. The illegal activities of MGN are.

wildernesssw · 10/02/2024 17:00

And their families (including Thomas and Samantha Markle) can talk about their experiences with Meghan, then.

Personally I think my family members - not that anyone is interested! - are entitled to their privacy.

skullbabe · 10/02/2024 17:06

And their families (including Thomas and Samantha Markle) can talk about their experiences with Meghan, then.

Not at all different from what I said. People are allowed to talk about their own families if they want to.

Now back to the illegal activities of MGN.

Janiie · 10/02/2024 17:07

skullbabe · 10/02/2024 16:55

People are free to talk about their own histories with their families - regardless of the family.

That - however- is not the focus of the judgement. The illegal activities of MGN are.

Yes hun we know it isn the focus of the judgement, it is however what Taller Sally declared upthread, that is why we are all a bit wtf.

Apparently privacy breaches don't count if one is related. Who knew!

mrsmingleton · 10/02/2024 17:27

Hopefully this will mean that Harry can put this behind him and move on with some positivity in his life.

yesmen · 10/02/2024 17:52

mrsmingleton · 10/02/2024 17:27

Hopefully this will mean that Harry can put this behind him and move on with some positivity in his life.

he seems very sane to me.

He seems methodical.

He seems like he has a plan.

And he seems to have moved on.

We however - have not! All the papers can talk about is him!

I don't understand why those newspaper inches are not devoted to the King and Queen, P&PoWs?

Methinks the lady doth protest too much - forgive me for mudering Shakesphere! :)

wildernesssw · 10/02/2024 18:06

Yes, I hope his appearance at the NFL awards is a positive step into a career he chooses

yesmen · 10/02/2024 18:42

He seems to be going to a few places with the Paramount boss - I wonder is there a TV distribution deal for Invictus Games coming up?

Huge if so!

skullbabe · 10/02/2024 18:55

I personally don’t think that there’s anything in the works with Paramount. But of course anything can happen - I think a partnership with Amazon more likely if a tie into Invictus as they already sponsor the tickets. I think they’ll stick with Netflix though.

Anyway - bring on the case against ANL (Daily Mail) and NGN (The Sun).

notthatthis · 10/02/2024 20:45

Mylovelygreendress · 09/02/2024 14:30

My thoughts exactly! And he donated his winnings to charity .,

When did he donate to charity? Proof please.

Spectre8 · 11/02/2024 00:16

But why should he donate his money to charity? He is the one who suffered by having his phone hacked, he will probably forever be a little bit paranoid it could be again. He had the courage to see it though I don't begrudge him keeping the money as compensation.

LittleTeawithmilk1 · 11/02/2024 02:31

Spectre8 · 11/02/2024 00:16

But why should he donate his money to charity? He is the one who suffered by having his phone hacked, he will probably forever be a little bit paranoid it could be again. He had the courage to see it though I don't begrudge him keeping the money as compensation.

Yes Spectre8

Perhaps Harry will be using it to fund the other 2 court cases against media.

He uses what he’s won from holding one media group to account, to hold another media group to account.

I’d like to say ‘oh the irony of one newspaper group funding his case against another’ but I’m not sure if that is irony? I’m never sure about irony.

Propertylover · 11/02/2024 05:48

@Spectre8 I think it was referring to W who gave his settlement to charity.

I agree W,H, K, Chelsea and the other claimants will always be a little bit paranoid.

Spectre8 · 11/02/2024 08:53

Propertylover · 11/02/2024 05:48

@Spectre8 I think it was referring to W who gave his settlement to charity.

I agree W,H, K, Chelsea and the other claimants will always be a little bit paranoid.

I understand the point is just because one person decides to give to charity doesn't mean other people have to. Doesn't make one person good and one person bad.

Propertylover · 11/02/2024 10:40

@Spectre8 I agree W and H are both entitled to do what they choose with their compensation.

I also agree that sadly a lot of posters are not as measured in their posts.

MrsLeonFarrell · 12/02/2024 13:45

It seems a good settlement, I wish Chelsey got something out of it because from the evidence she seems to have been hacked a lot, as Catherine was in similar circumstances. I've learnt a lot about why people settle rather than go through the trial through this. Anyone know how many cases Harry has left, I'm totally confused?

Piers Morgan seems to be heading down the YouTube channel rabbit hole which I don't think is a sign he is thriving.

kirinm · 12/02/2024 14:31

Wasn't the W settlement a secret? And if so, how does anyone know where the settlement money went?

goldierocks · 12/02/2024 17:01

kirinm · 12/02/2024 14:31

Wasn't the W settlement a secret? And if so, how does anyone know where the settlement money went?

Prince Harry's witness statement in his claim against NGN disclosed that Prince William had settled his case "for a very large sum of money" in 2020. The exact amount has not been made public (yet).

The 2020 accounts for the Royal Foundation (of the Duke & Duchess of Cambridge, as they were then) show a large outgoing donation. The 2020 accounts for the Invictus Games Foundation show a similar incoming donation. This is separate to the monies that were split between foundations when the Duke & Duchess of Sussex stepped back.

As far as I'm aware, there has never been official confirmation that the Invictus donation came from Prince William (the Royal Foundation). I'm also not aware of 'sources' correcting the reports to say the donation came from elsewhere.

So, who knows?!

wildernesssw · 12/02/2024 17:22

Harry and William are each entitled to:

  • decide whether to accept the settlement on offer or go to court
  • decide what sum they are willing to accept
  • keep that sum private or make it public
  • decide whether to keep that money or give it away

I wouldn't sneer at e.g. William for deciding to settle, or Harry if he doesn't choose to give the money to charity. They have both had deeply unpleasant experiences, and it is good that the newspapers involved have been held to account.

I hope the criminal investigation is now revisited - although a civil case and criminal case have different standards of proof, and the proof on the balance of probabilities may not be enough to satisfy 'beyond reasonable doubt'.

kirinm · 12/02/2024 18:14

@goldierocks thanks

So basically it's guesswork from people on here who want to paint William in as good a light as possible and use his potentially made up donation to slag off Harry for having not immediately donated any damages he recovered.

That's pretty much what I thought.

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