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Maireas · 18/12/2023 17:51

Samcro · 18/12/2023 17:45

Wow reading how much a child has to go through to get into one of these schools is sad.

Isn't it? So much pressure. Everyone should just go to their local state secondary (ducks down under parapet..)😁

CurlewKate · 18/12/2023 17:54

@derxa "What is it about George that provokes nasty attacks on here."

What nasty attacks?

Minutewaltz · 18/12/2023 18:15

Samcro · Yesterday 20:09
I know nothing about posh schools.
is a day or boarding school? What age do they start?

Google is your friend.

Minutewaltz · 18/12/2023 18:20

I doubt any of them will be bright enough for Eton and Eton isn’t exactly easy for security.

CurlewKate · Today 17:54
@derxa "What is it about George that provokes nasty attacks on here."
What nasty attacks?

CurlewKate - speculating about a child that presumably the poster has never met being stupid is pretty unpleasant.

AuroraCake · 18/12/2023 18:59

George, and all the Wales children, seem lovely and well adjusted. Credit to their parents. To say a child. Sh. It be academic enough, without actually knowing, for a particular school is just speculation. BUT none of the royals were every that academic. Charles things he is. He may well actually be. Who knows. They are ,lost.y an outdoorsy, sporty type.

AuroraCake · 18/12/2023 19:06

Lochroy · 18/12/2023 15:27

Lambrook really wasn't a surprise. All the pupils knew exactly who'd been to look around, and whilst it was one of a shortlist, there was a repeat visit, plus it was known they were moving to Windsor.

There has been an upturn in interest in the school, but equally plenty of existing parents aren't overly happy. It's brought changes which haven't been universally well received. In particular, whilst the standard of education is excellent, for every subject there are teachers universally perceived as the best. Guess which pupils always have those teaches...

What changes would that be then? Parents always have that with teachers. Some they think of as the best. Don’t know how much truth there is in that. Also it’s always PTA, governor children, staff children who win everything and get all the parts in plays. For one thing they are the ones who without a fail always enter these things.

Persumably their are other children in those classes too. And often the best teachers are allocated to lower, more challenging groups or exam years. In the state system anyway.

Maireas · 18/12/2023 19:17

No, that's not the case in the state system. That's the lowest priority when timetabling.

goodbyestranger · 18/12/2023 19:17

this all matters because he will be our Head of state

Name a smart King or Queen of England who has been in post in the past 300 years. Even when Head of State was a thing.

AuroraCake · 18/12/2023 19:25

Maireas · 18/12/2023 19:17

No, that's not the case in the state system. That's the lowest priority when timetabling.

Well I wouldn’t think so in their school. But it can definitely be in primary schools. No idea about secondary. They aren’t at secondary yet anyway.

rosyglowcondition · 18/12/2023 19:39

The queen was pretty smart. She usually knew when to listen to advisors and when her own judgement was enough.

I wonder if the kids can be weekly boarders? Not keen on boarding school. Rejected it for DS even though it was an option. Weekly boarding would be a good option.

Araminta1003 · 18/12/2023 20:02

According to this year’s Parent Power, Wellington scores much better at GCSE than Eton. Eton is stated as only 80.2 per cent grades 7-9 at GCSE. That is pretty low academically speaking. They did very well at A level though. Either suggests they dropped the ball during Covid or maybe the cohorts coming through are not that strong academically anymore? A top London independent would be quite concerned about such GCSE results. There could be other reasons like letting everyone do too many GCSEs- London schools will limit to 10 typically. Anyone know? Surely the Times get these things right?

Also with a school like Eton @goodbyestranger I doubt the buck stops entirely with the headmaster. Surely the Provost and other governors would have a say too?

Samcro · 18/12/2023 21:07

Minutewaltz · 18/12/2023 18:15

Samcro · Yesterday 20:09
I know nothing about posh schools.
is a day or boarding school? What age do they start?

Google is your friend.

Or I could ask on a thread like this

Bahhambug · 18/12/2023 21:15

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Lochroy · 18/12/2023 21:24

The only other one to throw into the mix is St Edwards, but I think that's even less likely than Charterhouse.

Fail headlines aside, I don't see any issue with the children following in Kate's footsteps. Marlborough has a long established postitive reputation for co-ed boarding. Wellington has only has girls for about 15 years. It doesn't really have a strong reputation, not that that should be a major influence.

goodbyestranger · 18/12/2023 21:24

No Araminta1003, this would be exclusively an executive decision by the HT. The Provost and governors don't get to dictate if an exception will be made for applicants who don't meet the set criteria.

goodbyestranger · 18/12/2023 21:27

The queen was pretty smart. She usually knew when to listen to advisors and when her own judgement was enough

What evidence is there for this. She made lots of missteps. Not a bright woman at all.

goodbyestranger · 18/12/2023 21:37

Araminta1003

a quick search reveals that he would not get a firm offer from Eton until after round 2

Another quick search would reveal that if he hadn't through the first stage, he would just have found out. And therefore might well need to be looking at other less selective options. Such as Malborough, for example. Off the top of my head.

This really isn't rocket science.

ANightingale · 18/12/2023 21:51

Samcro · 18/12/2023 21:07

Or I could ask on a thread like this

Eton takes full boarders only - no day pupils or weekly boarders - boys only, from the age of 13 to 18.

Marlborough College is a co-educational school that takes boarders and day pupils, from the age of 13 to 18.

13 is traditionally the starting age for Public schools. A Public school is actually a private school, the 'Public' in this case is a historical term and refers to the fact that the pupil admission wasn't restricted by, e.g. religious denomination or to parents of a particular profession.

Minutewaltz · 18/12/2023 22:02

What evidence is there for this. She made lots of missteps. Not a bright woman at all.

Genuine question - which missteps?

rosyglowcondition · 19/12/2023 09:52

Minutewaltz · 18/12/2023 22:02

What evidence is there for this. She made lots of missteps. Not a bright woman at all.

Genuine question - which missteps?

Exactly. In 70 years, of course there were one or two missteps, but overall to steer a ship as huge, unwieldy and diverse as the monarchy for such a length of time, meant she must have had quite a few smarts 😀

stillavid · 19/12/2023 09:59

Marlborough is full boarding, the v few day pupils are only I believe in exceptional circumstances.

Lochroy · 19/12/2023 10:09

AFAIK, Marlborough does permit ad hoc time out of school once Saturday commitments are complete. It's not full weekly boarding, but is allowed whereas at other schools it is only permitted on designated exeat weekends.

EdithWeston · 19/12/2023 10:13

It's quite hard to assess how "bright" someone is when they were home educated, did not take usual exams (wartime) and did not go to university.

So instead you have to look at what they did in their working life. ER II was an excellent diplomat - stuck to the brief, met just about every world leader and never provoked international difficulties (compare Boris - a Kings Scholar reputed to be really brainy who just could not do this).

No indiscretions as head of state or in her governmental role. Clearly chose advisers well - look at the Aussie crisis of 1975

Must have excellent short-term memory - personal comments at investitures and receptions (another form of following the brief)

Can't think of any major bloopers with her charities and patronages - though amount of her time those really had is moot.

Then other roles - steering the Duchy and the management of other properties (see interviews with the key senior staff who explain that she took time to really learn/understand what went in to it, and took a real interest), being the owner/breeder of world-class racehorses

She said her main regret was following advice that her presence would impede, rather than following instinct and making an early visit to Aberfan (had since made several visit)

And in the aftermath of Diana's death, opinion remains divided on whether she showed good judgement (putting family ahead of nation for once and staying with the princes) or whether she was remote and uncaring.

Sorry - all a bit stream-of-consciousness - but I don't think you can write-off ER II as not very bright because she had no formal education or academic achievements.

stillavid · 19/12/2023 10:13

At Marlborough you can take a priv twice a term, that means you can go home after Saturday fixtures and return for prep on a Sunday. Some houseparents will allow more than the two a term but children are encouraged to make the most of the full boarding experience. They also get two exeats per term.

whirlingdevonish · 19/12/2023 10:35

Loving the 'tell us you went to Marlborough/another smart school' without telling us you went to Marlborough/another smart school' references!

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