Royals took more than £1bn income

[ladykale]

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/ng-interactive/2023/apr/05/revealed-royals-took-more-than-1bn-income-from-controversial-estates-king-charles-queen-duchies-cornwall-lancaster

I just don't understand how high earners are taxed to death in this country and the average population still wants them to pay more and more tax, yet most are in favour of the Royal Familh whose income increased x16 during the Queen's reign and they took £1bn of income,

I don't know how they've successfully brainwashed the people of britain to continue supporting them.

I find it so ridiculous.

Not really. They just have titles. They should have the same rights to privacy that we do.

@Whaeanui

I think you might enjoy reading this from Polly Toynbee.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/commentisfree/2023/apr/05/royal-family-monarchy-cost-of-the-crown

The Borbones of Spain cost a mere £7.4m a year, while we pay our Windsors a very pricey £86m. And that’s before we add in the roughly £40m a year in revenues from their Duchy estates – adding up to £1.2bn over the years. That’s not much really, monarchists may claim. Out of £1tn in annual government spending, the royals’ consumption of taxpayers money is a mere bagatelle, a fleabite.

If that’s what the royals think, you might wonder why they are so exceptionally secretive about anything touching on their wealth and incomes. Why are the wills of even obscure royals locked away from the public gaze? It may be because they think that most of their subjects would consider their incomes vast.

This slavery linkage is going to be the biggie particularly in the context of the Commonwealth and the Harry/Meghan optics in the US. Indeed, the aristocratic family Trevelyan's have begun the process of examination, apology and reparations. Probably an apology leads them open to some sort of legal/ moral jeopardy which is why they haven't done so to date. If KP wants to try and get ahead of this they should announce an apology, appoint some learned body to undergo a review and a produce a report and ringfence a fund to help ancestors and communities impacted by this. The Guardian is doing sterling work here to raise the level and detail of the debate. The biting photoshop satirist Cold War Steve commented on K&W's disastrous visit to the Caribbean with this photomontage.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/06/how-prince-william-kensington-palace-home-is-linked-to-slavery

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/04/british-slave-owners-family-apologise-reparations-trevelyans

Probably an apology leads them open to some sort of legal/ moral jeopardy which is why they haven't done so to date.

Actually Prince Albert already did, but as ever you never let the facts get in the way of your posts.

Indeed, he did, and thanks for the information - this article puts that in context.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/26/racist-ideas-slavery-slave-owners-hate-crime-brexit-vote

Looks like Charles's realises the importance of getting the optics right on this issue.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65200570

I think I read Charles may gift balmoral to the Scottish people? Wouldn’t that be amazing?

No

Ha, Derxa. We finally agree on something 😁

I suspect Charles is attempting to offload a ruinously expensive pig in a poke while showboating graciously about it. That your take?!

Over covid, their income went down because the Crown Estates suffered losses like everyone else.

It didn't.

The SG is guaranteed never to reduce and the Covid hits were met by the public purse.

Say what you like about the late Queen and whether the electric bar fire stories were true or not she knew how to save the pennies and make them into many, many millions of pounds. Probably why they liked Scotland so much ...😀

Duchy Originals is clearly a commercial enterprise, he collects rent on properties, makes profits when he sells trees…

The Duchy Originals label was sold to Waitrose when it stopped turning Charles a dime.

Charles collects rent on properties, yes. Including Highgrove, owned by the Duchy of Cornwall and thus recycling his own rent payments back to himself in the form of Duchy profits. Willy is now his landlord...

The tree thing was another triumphal sleight of hand. He claimed he owned the things which were growing on Duchy land then sold them back to the Duchy earning himself a couple of million in the process.

Claiming it's all above board 'cos tax is laughable.

Their wills are secret .

Says it all .
It's partly to spare the public's blushes re children outside marriage but mainly so the serfs won't have proof of their vast wealth

The queen's two bar electric fire PR wheeze ! How they must laugh at the stupidity of the serfs

Charles and the Queen have also made 2 million from selling horses given to them as presents because they are the Royal Family.

Their wills are secret

Along with presumably embarrassing papers that will be released in 100 or so years time when nobody cares.

For those wondering about the electric fire. Here's a link that said in the war a lot of folks probably including them did their best for the war effort and tried to save energy and the like. I don't think she was inherently that cynical. But she did however press the Germans to 'gift' her two thoroughbreds. Sort of war reparations...

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/queen-two-bar-electric-fire-1725760

https://www.bracknellnews.co.uk/news/national/23415471.queen-asked-two-horses-gift-1978-state-visit-germany/

The queen's two bar electric fire PR wheeze !

And let's not forget she tried to claim heating allowance to cover them...

Charles and the Queen have also made 2 million from selling horses given to them as presents because they are the Royal Family.

Can we reference Fawcett, Charles's fence for unwanted presents here too?

I did notice, printed in a paper the other day , that Prince philip's will was sealed ' out of consideration for the queen'
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You might as well just say it at that point

I did notice, printed in a paper the other day , that Prince philip's will was sealed ' out of consideration for the queen'

And clearly staying sealed even though she's gone 😡

@vera99

You clearly know nothing about Queen Charlotte and the history of the movement for abolition in Britain. The queen began a movement to reject produce made in the slave owned West Indies on the late 16th Century.

Slavery was abhorrent. And it is beyond gruesome that people today are using what happened in that period to attack political and ideological opponents today.

When do the sins of the father stop being the sins of the son?

Or, to put it as Ghandi did- ‘an eye for an eye would leave the world blind.’

I suspect that there is nothing the royal family could do to appease your hatred of them.

@nonheme

What is your source for that information?