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Megan sues over published letter to father but Harry published private texts

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Kateforqueen · 10/01/2023 18:41

www.bbc.com/news/uk-59220417
Another example of hypocrites demanding double standards.
H&M sue the daily mail over a leaked letter to Thomas Markle but Harry has leaked messages between Kate & Meghan. Where is the logic?

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StormzyinaTCup · 12/01/2023 11:41

Grrrpredictivetex · 12/01/2023 10:49

Surely there was a chair to sit on?

Or maybe they hadn't figured how to put the IKEA a hair together at this point?

I'm now just rethinking the whole 'William grabbed me and I ended up on the floor' event. Maybe the real truth is Harry isn't very good with an Allen key, one of the legs on the IKEA Nordviken bar stool in the kitchen came away and he ended up on the kitchen floor with a broken necklace and his arse in the dog bowl. William was present at the time, laughed his head off and caused Harry some deep trauma. Wink

Kateforqueen · 12/01/2023 11:47

Favourite meme

Megan sues over published letter to father but Harry published private texts
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milveycrohn · 12/01/2023 11:54

I do not think they were the exact texts! The newspaper just made a mockup to make them look like real texts (so it said).
So if they are paraphrasing what was said, is that OK?
Personally, I think they should move on from bridesmaids dresses.
I think they have invaded the privacy of the RF in so many ways, and these are just one example.

thecatsthecats · 12/01/2023 11:59

Redblanky · 12/01/2023 10:44

The double standard that's really struck me is that he admits he was biggotted before he met M and has now learned, but no one else from the same background is allowed to make the same mistakes and learn. Obviously no one should ever be biggotted but it's Ok that he used to be?

That goes for William's anger issues also.

But Harry has detailed quite clearly that he does not meet Megan's sole criteria - "Is he nice?"

  • Brawling with his own security
  • Taking drugs
  • Racist language
  • Mocking the disabled
  • Whinging about a car parking near his house for someone who was just trying to work
  • Not protecting Meghan from any of the press himself, or preparing her for this life
  • Seems to acknowledge that bullied or no, staff were suffering immensely under his household

I have great sympathy for the fact that he clearly has huge issues stemming from the death of his mother. My own brother lost contact with his father at a similar age due to huge abuse. He has big issues - the world owes him a better childhood, life, girlfriend, house, job. Huge bitterness at anyone who has better or more than him.

I wouldn't go recommending him to any woman as "nice". I'd say, on a fundamental level, decent bloke, but very damaged.

Hoppinggreen · 12/01/2023 12:02

oakleaffy · 11/01/2023 09:44

“On the floor, crying”?
Is Meghan a toddler, having a tantrum?

That’s rather histrionic behaviour for a middle aged woman.
Surely there was a chair to sit on?

I have lived to the ripe old age of. 50 without ever being on the floor crying
Even when truly awful things have happened - so either H is lying (misremembering?) or M is a total drama queen

WeepingSomnambulist · 12/01/2023 12:06

When I read the daily mail article, I just skimmed and thought the conversation described was a recreation of text messages. Now that I've seen the extract from the book, they weren't text messages.
It was a spoken conversation. Harry wrote, "They arranged a time to speak in the afternoon." And then he outlined what they said.

It wasnt text messages. They arranged a time to speak, got on the phone and the book outlines the conversation they allegedly had. Spoken word not texts. Have none of you read it properly?

The issue with a newspaper publishing her letter was copyright. She owned the right to the letter she had written. That's why she won the case. There is no copyright here. There are no messages. It was a spoken word conversation which Harry has outlined in his book.

Of course, it could be bullshit, they could have changed the wording, the same as everything else he had written. But there is no copyright issue.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 12/01/2023 12:32

But wasn't the Thomas Markle letter case also about privacy? I'd be interested to see what a court had to say about privacy in this case.

Kateforqueen · 12/01/2023 12:36

@Sweetpeasaremadeforbees exactly. But rehashing those messages Kate & Charlotte's privacy is invaded.

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fUNNYfACE36 · 12/01/2023 12:51

caringcarer · 12/01/2023 11:20

We don't know if the content of book is accurate or more likely trying to paint Princess Catherine in a bad light and try to get sympathy for Meghan. Harry's porkies. So far he claimed to be at Eton when Queen Mother died but was in fact at Klosters on skiing trip with Charles and William. Claimed he was given an Xbox for 13th birthday but they did not come out until 4 years later, claimed he descended from Henry lV but could not as his only died in Battle of Roses and claimed Meghan bought her Dad a first class ticket from Mexico to UK but Canada Air has stated they have never flown route from Mexico to UK and don't offer first class ticket only business or economy. What makes anyone think they can believe a word that comes out of Harry or Meghan's mouth? Spare is clearly a fictional book.

No fan of Harry , but having studied him at school i seem ti thjnk Henry IV had loads of children??

Serenster · 12/01/2023 13:00

It was actually Henry VI who Harry was talking about - he founded Eton and his only son was killed at the Battle of Tewkesbury, leaving Edward IV to take the throne - the PP has has her Henrys (or rather her Roman numerals!) mixed up 😀

Anyway, I feel a little bit sorry for Harry. We know his mother used to lock herself in her bathroom to sob, his wife is quite often be found lying on the floor sobbing and he tells us his staff used to lie across their desks sobbing. He must think this is perfectly normal behaviour…

custardbear · 12/01/2023 13:02

PH is just behaving like a spoilt entitled brat. He uses idiotic terms like 'I won't tolerate...' 'what M wants she gets...' 'my truth' and essentially it's a spoilt brat demanding everything his own way.

He's even idiotically told the world about his 25 kills... and now blames the fall out down to the 'press spin' ... it's not about the spin you bloody fool, the taliban are just interested you killed their people ... that's YOUR doing ... it the press!

Hell blame the world and everyone in it except his mummy, Meghan and himself - he recognises no accountability for his actions - because he's being a spoilt brat - he's accountable for so much of this shit - he could have gin about this in a very different way - but he didn't because he's explosive, entitled and thinks he's the centre of the universe and everyone should bow down to him - bloody idiot

Florissant · 12/01/2023 13:15

What a surprise. Not.

slithytoveisascientist · 12/01/2023 13:15

Kateforqueen · 12/01/2023 11:47

Favourite meme

This has me absolutely in stitches

Not quite lying on the floor crying with laughter but good enough!

GentlySobbing · 12/01/2023 13:17

WeepingSomnambulist · 12/01/2023 12:06

When I read the daily mail article, I just skimmed and thought the conversation described was a recreation of text messages. Now that I've seen the extract from the book, they weren't text messages.
It was a spoken conversation. Harry wrote, "They arranged a time to speak in the afternoon." And then he outlined what they said.

It wasnt text messages. They arranged a time to speak, got on the phone and the book outlines the conversation they allegedly had. Spoken word not texts. Have none of you read it properly?

The issue with a newspaper publishing her letter was copyright. She owned the right to the letter she had written. That's why she won the case. There is no copyright here. There are no messages. It was a spoken word conversation which Harry has outlined in his book.

Of course, it could be bullshit, they could have changed the wording, the same as everything else he had written. But there is no copyright issue.

Meghan claimed for both copyright infringement and misuse of personal information in respect of her letter to her father.

She won on both.

Harry hasn't printed verbatim text messages so there is no infringement of Kate's copyright here (and text messages probably aren't sufficiently creative to attract copyright protection).

But Kate could feasibly put together a claim for misuse of private information in respect of Harry's retelling of the conversation. Particularly as the conversation related to a child. What constitutes a "misuse" is very fact-driven, and it's a developing area of law, so not really possible to say if she would win. Same for the other private information that Harry has disclosed - doesn't he talk about William's circumcision status somewhere?

Obviously she's not going to bring a claim, because in the grand scheme of things it's far from the worst intrusion she has faced, and it wouldn't be worth the effort.

But in principle there is certainly a parallel between what the Mail did to Meghan, and what Harry has done to his family.

Kateforqueen · 12/01/2023 13:18

@slithytoveisascientist basically sums him up🤣🤣

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bakalava · 12/01/2023 15:15

Wonder if Meghan would have been found on the floor sobbing if it had not been puiblicised that Diana had done this? Dual mothership.

QueenSmartypants · 12/01/2023 15:42

WeepingSomnambulist · 12/01/2023 12:06

When I read the daily mail article, I just skimmed and thought the conversation described was a recreation of text messages. Now that I've seen the extract from the book, they weren't text messages.
It was a spoken conversation. Harry wrote, "They arranged a time to speak in the afternoon." And then he outlined what they said.

It wasnt text messages. They arranged a time to speak, got on the phone and the book outlines the conversation they allegedly had. Spoken word not texts. Have none of you read it properly?

The issue with a newspaper publishing her letter was copyright. She owned the right to the letter she had written. That's why she won the case. There is no copyright here. There are no messages. It was a spoken word conversation which Harry has outlined in his book.

Of course, it could be bullshit, they could have changed the wording, the same as everything else he had written. But there is no copyright issue.

Actually, the passage in the book is vague - probably deliberately so - as to whether the exchange took place by text message or over the phone. Most people have interpreted it as a text exchange and given the account of what was said by each, I'm inclined to agree.

BadgerB · 12/01/2023 17:48

bakalava · Today 15:15
Wonder if Meghan would have been found on the floor sobbing if it had not been puiblicised that Diana had done this? Dual mothership.

I didn't know that! What a master manipulator she is. Probably still wearing Diana's perfume too

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