Inconsistencies in Spare over hearing about Queen Mother's death

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Harry writes that he found out about the Queen Mother's passing away (in March 2002):

"At Eton, while studying, I took the call. I wish I could remember whose voice was on the other end. A courtiers I believe. I recall that is was just before Easter, the weather bright and warm, light slanting through my window, filled with vivid colours. "Your Royal Highness. The Queen Mother has died." "

News reports at the time reported he was skiing in Switzerland with Charles and William. The Queen Mother died on 30 March 2002. Easter Saturday. He wouldn't have been at school.

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Recollections may vary, indeed! I doubt very much Harry would have taken the call if he's been with his father.

Didn't the editors do any fact checking?

Hi @JemimaTiggywinkles I copied you in sort as in response to your post which seemed more level headed than some others. That said, the explanation by @HaroldsSausageInCider - is that name from an incident in the book?! - as to why the issue is 'Mumsnet gold' is good stuff!

Penguin’s fact-checkers probably had their work cut out for them and missed this one. What a thankless job that would be.

WRT the rubber fish, I recall these being used st school for children who held their pen incorrectly & had untidy handwriting. Perhaps he took it as an insult

I lost my parents at a young age. I remember everything in detail as if it was yesterday. I also remember where I was when I heard of the deaths of any family members such as grandparents.

Harry doesn't seem to have liked any of his family other than his mother so it's perhaps not surprising he doesn't remember the details as he didn't care.

Didn’t the judge accuse Meghan of not being completely truthful in her recent court case. In which case the saying
’birds of a feather flock together’ comes to mind.

So Harry May have confused the deaths of his great aunt and his great grandmother but this wasn’t an anecdote he told at a party, or even in an interview, this was written in a book. And when you are writing a book you check your facts. Or have someone check them for you. Especially things like dates.

Fair enough, @NewspaperTaxis .

MissMarpleRocks, Meghan had an unfortunate lapse of memory which was corrected by Knauf’s testimony. Goodness only knows why she wouldn’t want her mistaken testimony pointed out and corrected, and why she was so angry / hurt that Harry’s own brother (and future king) allowed his aide to testify to the actual (provable) truth.

It does, for me.
I didn't believe any of the whole 'poor me' rubbish anyway though, so he's just confirmed that he talks a load of bollocks. Complete fantasist but taking casualties with him which is pretty nasty.

Interesting. I wonder what else his memory got wrong?

RECOLLECTIONS MAY VARY

It seems a strange fact to miss.

I wonder if the secrecy meant the number of fact checkers was limited?

Were they all American? Or quite young? Maybe they didn’t have a sense of Who the Queen Mother was in public life?

I feel for him. He has actually said in the book I believe that he had therapy to recall memories. No reputable British therapist would be doing that because of the evidence around false memory creation. I’ve no doubt that he was told all kinds of important personal news coldly by courtiers, obviously not this particular one. In a sense, it not being factual doesn’t mean it isn’t true in another and important way. But it means that the royals are never going to hear what he has to say. He is a hurting teenage boy, he needs a kind of love that they cannot ever provide because they’ve never experienced it. All desperately sad.

Perhaps she bought him a pen to start noting down his lies.

There are many therapists in LA who will tell you what percentage Draco/Atlantean/Pleiadian you are. You then drop it into a social media post only for one of your irritating followers to tell you that they also remember you from Ancient Egypt too. I am not actually joking here.

I feel for him. He has actually said in the book I believe that he had therapy to recall memories. No reputable British therapist would be doing that because of the evidence around false memory creation. I’ve no doubt that he was told all kinds of important personal news coldly by courtiers, obviously not this particular one. In a sense, it not being factual doesn’t mean it isn’t true in another and important way. But it means that the royals are never going to hear what he has to say. He is a hurting teenage boy, he needs a kind of love that they cannot ever provide because they’ve never experienced it. All desperately sad.
Don't know where to start with this. Well I do but I can't be arsed.

You are bloody barking mad.

Right, back to find my place on the thread.

Adding my agreement to this simply being evidence that "recollections may vary" .
Given Harry's spiritual beliefs perhaps this is his Granny speaking to him. I hope he listens.

He is a hurting teenage boy

He’s 38 actually.

The Royal Family must be rubbing their hands together in glee. Harry has shown himself to be an unreliable narrator. They don't need to say or do anything.

On a side note, I find it incredibly sad that a PP thinks "understanding death" means not remembering where you were or when. I understand death, but I also care about those close to me who have died, so I remember.

Or more likely a drug addled, resentful adult.

I'm more coming round to the view that Chelsea and Cressida bolted when they "knew him better" and poor Meghan has got way more than she bargained for (although I suspect divorce was always in her plan).

Are you saying to the pp that explained they too get muddled with some memories around bereavements that they probably just didn't care enough about their family members?

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/622457.stm
in black and white reported by the BBC from 2002

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/622457.stm

He is a hurting teenage boy

Pull the other one! He’s a 38yo man, father, veteran.

Ohhhhh, missed that bit! 😂

My sides!